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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    Eckstein? Please.
    Best example other than Rowand I could think of. I know what you're saying, but that turd helped energize two World Series teams. Unbelieveable I know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Duke View Post
    Best example other than Rowand I could think of. I know what you're saying, but that turd helped energize two World Series teams. Unbelieveable I know...
    "Helped energize"? More like "rode the coattails of better players." Let's not confuse lucky and good here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    "Helped energize"? More like "rode the coattails of better players." Let's not confuse lucky and good here.
    No, not my intent. Just one of those hard-working, underskilled types. Lucky at the opportune times. At any rate, still falls in-line with my earlier point, you don't try to build your team around an Aaron Rowand any more than you build it around a David Eckstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Duke View Post
    No, not my intent. Just one of those hard-working, underskilled types. Lucky at the opportune times. At any rate, still falls in-line with my earlier point, you don't try to build your team around an Aaron Rowand any more than you build it around a David Eckstein.
    Juan Pierre is one of those hard-working, underskilled types too. So what? He still sucks at baseball.

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    The Jones signing is a good one, period. And if Andruw puts up mild-to-good numbers he'll get a nice extension offer after mid-season.

    Call me an optimist but I'm certain he'll have much better numbers this season. The short contract should inspire him to excellence, because, after all, the money's on the line. If this guy knows that putting up 30+ homers and a batting average hovering between .285 and .300 will merit him even bigger dollars in two years (taking into consideration this deal), then he'll do whatever it takes to achieve it.

    Let's not forget that a year and a half ago (not sure of time frame/was it?) that he started the whole - not showing urgency in the field for fly balls, and a non-chalant attitude overall because he wanted out of ATL.

    I believe he'll show up in LA and we'll indeed have what we expect from him.

    As far as Pierre goes... I'd take a grade-B left handed middle reliever and cash for him, and eat the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So sumi
    Call me an optimist but I'm certain he'll have much better numbers this season.
    Not exactly setting a high bar, are we?

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    As far as Pierre goes... I'd take a grade-B left handed middle reliever and cash for him, and eat the rest.
    I get where you're going with that, but I think you've got it backwards. Any deal that involves us dealing Pierre will likely involve us sending cash to the other team.

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    So... say that Colletti CAN'T Move Pierre and trades Kemp or Eithier (I hope not!). Where the **** does Pierre play? RF?
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    So... say that Colletti CAN'T Move Pierre and trades Kemp or Eithier (I hope not!). Where the **** does Pierre play? RF?
    Left field. He doesn't have anywhere near the arm to play right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbruin152 View Post
    Left field. He doesn't have anywhere near the arm to play right.
    You know, I've tried to wrap my head around this a bunch of times, but why is right a harder throwing position? The distance to the plate is the same. Is it because the RF sometimes has to throw to 3rd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit View Post
    You know, I've tried to wrap my head around this a bunch of times, but why is right a harder throwing position? The distance to the plate is the same. Is it because the RF sometimes has to throw to 3rd?

    Yep

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