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To hear the actually sound in the Premier jets pilot voice that his T-cas (traffic avoidance) was going off is just crazy..The pilot ended up getting repremanded for his actions.

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Old July 11th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #1
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To hear the actually sound in the Premier jets pilot voice that his T-cas (traffic avoidance) was going off is just crazy..The pilot ended up getting repremanded for his actions.


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Old July 12th, 2008, 12:02 AM   #2
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It was just this guy doing his thing.

You were in a Four-G inverted dive with a MiG28?
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It was just this guy doing his thing.

You were in a Four-G inverted dive with a MiG28?
did he spill the passengers' coffee in the cabin?
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You were in a Four-G inverted dive with a MiG28?
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Thats pretty damn funny IMO. Things like that are the reason i could never be a pilot lol. Id be doing that stuff all the time.
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Where were they when we needed them on 9-11..
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It's all fun and games on the ground, but when your up there traveling at 160-220 knots, thats actually pretty damn scarey. But what were all missing is, why didn't the ATC see this before his T-CAS went off?
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It wasn't a passenger jet - it was a PC-12 (a single engine turboprop). I'm not sure that the F-16 pilot was actually reprimanded - the investigation seemed to indicate he didn't do anything wrong; in fact, he never approached closer than 600ft according to the HUD tapes, and did so on a parallel course. The PC-12 pilot was flying through an MOA and should have expected this. At a minimum, he should have called ahead to figure out if it was hot at the time.

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Old July 13th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #11
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20 feet? BS on the civilian pilot. Pay attention next time you fly through a hot zone.
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20 feet? BS on the civilian pilot. Pay attention next time you fly through a hot zone.
When I ffly out to the river there's a MOA at 29palms and this incident goes thru my head and I always make sure it's not hot.
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Old July 14th, 2008, 05:26 AM   #13
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It wasn't a passenger jet - it was a PC-12 (a single engine turboprop). I'm not sure that the F-16 pilot was actually reprimanded - the investigation seemed to indicate he didn't do anything wrong; in fact, he never approached closer than 600ft according to the HUD tapes, and did so on a parallel course. The PC-12 pilot was flying through an MOA and should have expected this. At a minimum, he should have called ahead to figure out if it was hot at the time.

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The last time I was at a charter company a Pilatus IS used for charting a group of 10-12 people. Is no commercial jumbo, but it is a passenger turboprop. And yes the military pilot was reprimanded according to AOPA. Either way there was 2 problems like you guys pointed out, the pilot should have checked to see if the MOA was hot, and the F-16 pilot shouldn't have gotten bored.
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The last time I was at a charter company a Pilatus IS used for charting a group of 10-12 people. Is no commercial jumbo, but it is a passenger turboprop. And yes the military pilot was reprimanded according to AOPA. Either way there was 2 problems like you guys pointed out, the pilot should have checked to see if the MOA was hot, and the F-16 pilot shouldn't have gotten bored.
Bored? Or annoyed?

You're right about the PC-12. I meant to add that it can be used to transport a small number of people. But at least you try not to fly through an MOA actively in use.

Anyway - it sounds like good ground controlled intercept practice right there - lead the F-16 to the plane, then escort him out of the MOA. I like it.
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Bored? Or annoyed?

You're right about the PC-12. I meant to add that it can be used to transport a small number of people. But at least you try not to fly through an MOA actively in use.

Anyway - it sounds like good ground controlled intercept practice right there - lead the F-16 to the plane, then escort him out of the MOA. I like it.
No it's all good. Just got back for Long Beach and had a fighter passed by me at a lower altitude. But, SoCal was talking to him at the same time.
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What an idiot to complain....SHut your trap and beat it!!! Real smart complain and see what happens the next time you fly through there. "Yes, this F-16 just flew with in 10 feet of my aircraft and I want to file a complaint over." "Roger, standby for the numbers over." "10-4 copy this F-16 is messing with us and I am gonna complain about his flying. OH wait, I think there is a missile creeping up my ass over!!!"""" 10-4 Roger copy cancellation of all complaints---OVER and OUT!!!!
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