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I guess you can never really rule out anything in the fight game. Anxious to see how this all plays out.

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I guess you can never really rule out anything in the fight game.

Anxious to see how this all plays out.
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I guess you can never really rule out anything in the fight game.

Anxious to see how this all plays out.
I think everyone is feeling the same way. What a strange twist it has taken. If nothing else, I hope it happens just to hear the interview with Rogan after the fight. . .not to mention all the questions beforehand leading up to it. That will be SPECTACULAR.

More for the conspiracy theorist. . .
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I remain very skeptical about all this. Especially about the part where the UFC co-promotes with m-1.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #1066
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I remain very skeptical about all this. Especially about the part where the UFC co-promotes with m-1.
Yea the co-promoting part I just don't see. I don't see Dana doing that at all.

Randy coming back, I can see that happening, especially if they plan on having him fight in Oregon. Still a long shot but more of a possibility than the UFC co-promoting.
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In case anyone hasn't read it, here's KJ Noon's rant against EliteXC and why he won't fight Diaz.

K.J. Noons issues statement, criticizes EliteXC and company executives | MMAjunkie.com

And here's Diaz's camp's response, where they tear KJ a new one.

EliteXC VP Jared Shaw, Nick Diaz's camp respond to K.J. Noons | MMAjunkie.com

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If you will not fight Diaz due to a breach of contract by EliteXC then why would you fight Alvarez for the same terms?
Wonder what KJ can come up with as an answer.

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Promoters will sue when you don't fulfill the terms of your contract, just ask Randy Couture. By the way, you are not Randy Couture and the fight world is not holding it's breath waiting to see if you will fight again. 2) $83,000? There are several fighters that are a lot better than you fighting for a lot less. Pay your dues and quit being a little bitch. 3) You are paying your management too high of a percentage and here's some advice you should consider, \\"they are completely incompetent\\". 4) Chuck Liddell makes 100s of thousands more than Keith Jardine even though he lost to him. Diaz does not complain that Kimbo makes much more. He understands marketability, why can't you? 5) Divide this and then multiply it several times: KJ = little bitch > KJ = real champion 6) We agree you do need more Vaseline. You are used to it and damn those EliteXC guys for not using it when they bend you over.
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Inside the DVD were three of the trading cards Noons complained of being omitted from in his original statement. Featured on the cards were Nick Diaz, Kevin \"Kimbo Slice\" Ferguson and Noons.

A call from Shaw followed shortly after.

\"The gift you received today is a token of EliteXC's appreciation to all press and a reminder about how we do treat our fighters,\" Shaw said. \"And any fan that also wants to see exactly how we treat them right should go to any major retailer of DVD's and buy 'EliteXC: Renegades.'

\"And if I'm wrong about what I claim, send me your receipt and I'll pay for it.\"

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In case anyone hasn't read it, here's KJ Noon's rant against EliteXC and why he won't fight Diaz.

K.J. Noons issues statement, criticizes EliteXC and company executives | MMAjunkie.com

And here's Diaz's camp's response, where they tear KJ a new one.

EliteXC VP Jared Shaw, Nick Diaz's camp respond to K.J. Noons | MMAjunkie.com

The most interesting points are:



Wonder what KJ can come up with as an answer.



Ouch!

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Yeah. Bunch of whiners as far as I'm concerned. You've got Noons throwing a tantrum because he's not being paid enough. Got news for you KJ, no one knows who you are. Then, you've got Diaz crying because he only lost due to cuts. So? You freaking lost. Those cuts didn't magically happen. They were due to Noons beating on you. Also, since Diaz barely beat that guy Aina (and I still think he lost), he's hardly one to demand title shots.

Bottom line, I wish both would disappear.
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Yea, this whole situation is extremely lame. KJ Noons has no reason to pick his own opponents at this point.

EliteXC showed some promise but it seems like they are dying a slow death. That Kimbo fight can't come soon enough for them
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Yeah it sucks, I think I read something that said they were 55mil in debt? I'd like to see them survive but it's probably not going to happen.
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Yeah, by all accounts they are on their way out.

There's even word that CBS is trying to negotiate with the UFC for when their current contract with EliteXC runs out.

Buyer’s remorse? CBS rethinks EliteXC, flirts with UFC at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com
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Big announcement coming from Dana today:

UFC will make Couture's return official at Noon PT - MMA Experts Blog - Mixed Martial Arts - Yahoo! Sports

Again, I won't believe Couture is coming back until I hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
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It's official! Randy's back!

Randy Couture returns to fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 … in Las Vegas at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com

I really don't like that this fight is for the championship. Brock DOES NOT DESERVE a title fight.
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Randy Couture returns to fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 91 … in Las Vegas at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com

I really don't like that this fight is for the championship. Brock DOES NOT DESERVE a title fight.
Totally agree, but what are the options if it isn't for the title? Can't have a 3-rounder, because if Lesnar wins. . .no one would consider Randy the champ anymore. I guess they could strip him of the title, but that looks pretty cheap. Not to mention, why didn't they do that earlier? They're kind of between a rock and a hard place on this one. At least it's over. I'd LOVE to see the contract Randy got. You know. . .to see if he got his "respect".
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Totally agree, but what are the options if it isn't for the title? Can't have a 3-rounder, because if Lesnar wins. . .no one would consider Randy the champ anymore. I guess they could strip him of the title, but that looks pretty cheap. Not to mention, why didn't they do that earlier? They're kind of between a rock and a hard place on this one. At least it's over. I'd LOVE to see the contract Randy got. You know. . .to see if he got his \"respect\".
Well, luckily, UFC 91 is in Vegas now, not Portland, so we will at least get to know what his base salary is. Hopefully it's more than that paltry $250k (plus PPV rev) that he was getting.

I agree that there's not much they could do, but that doesn't mean that I have to like it, lol. At least it's kinda a tournament format, so even if Brock wins, he would most likely still lose to Big Nog (who will certainly beat Mir) and not be the REAL champ.

So far, Bloody Elbow has the best recap on the call that I have seen.

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Randy Couture Returns to UFC; UFC 91: Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar in LasVegas - Bloody Elbow
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Amazing...
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Curious move throwing Lesnar is there. I'm just happy we get to see a few more good matches with Randy.
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It makes perfect sense from a business stand point.

With Big Nog and Mir locked into the reality show, this was only the really option and it really works out well for the UFC.

If Randy wins, it just adds to his legacy and makes him a bigger star for the UFC to make money off of. Brock loses, but he doesn't lose face, cause hey it's Randy right?

If Brock wins, the win puts him over in a huge way.
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