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About This Page: This is a discussion on Other Sports within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. I knew it! I predicted a Rampage win via KO and I was right. I just had the wrong round. Less than two minutes? WAR RAMPAGE! I even told my
I knew it! I predicted a Rampage win via KO and I was right. I just had the wrong round. Less than two minutes? WAR RAMPAGE! I even told my dad to put money on Rampage, but we couldn't find a betting site for MMA.
Even though it is kinda bad to say this, I am glad that Chuck lost. For being the face of MMA in the US, he was overrated and certainly very uncharismatic. The #1 LHW in the world is Shogun Rua, and even as the (former) UFC champ, you would have to make a pretty good argument to make Chuck a top-5.
But this sets up some interesting fights. Hendo/Rampage is going to be awesome (Rampage lost to Wanderlei twice and Hendo beat Wanderlei). Hell, if I were UFC, I would set up a Wanderlei/Chuck fight. Both guys need big wins (Wanderlei has consecutive losses to CroCop and Hendo) and it would be a helluva fight.
PS - Anyone else really ticked off at the crowd booing Rampage after his win? It saddens me that too many cretins are getting into MMA now that it is popular and know nothing about the history and fighters. Chuck may have been the posterboy for UFC, but that doesn't mean they have to get all butt-hurt when he loses. I have heard people saying that Chuck losing is a step backwards for MMA, but I have to strongly disagree. Rampage is a very funny guy even after he went all crazy.
PPS - Listen to Randy Couture. He always picks the winners.
EDIT: Found the better Rampage interview.
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PS - Anyone else really ticked off at the crowd booing Rampage after his win? It saddens me that too many cretins are getting into MMA now that it is popular and know nothing about the history and fighters. Chuck may have been the posterboy for UFC, but that doesn't mean they have to get all butt-hurt when he loses.
Lets try not to get all sherdoggy in here ok? I'm a little sick and tired of people saying not to boo the fighters. It's lame to be quite honest. MMA is no different than any other sport in that you have fans of particular teams or individuals. People like a guy, they want him to win. He loses, they're not happy about it. They don't hate Jackson, they just know he beat their guy. So what? Page will be fine and he'll get new fans out of this. It's really getting ridiculous to call people names for booing. Christ, would any of us cheer if the Ducks beat the Kings for the Stanley Cup? It's the hardest trophy in sports to win. . .shouldn't we?
They don't hate Jackson, they just know he beat their guy. So what? Page will be fine and he'll get new fans out of this
to me this is a sort of negative to how Zuffa runs the UFC now that they've acquired Pride. There are so many fighters, nobody knows who is where and what weight division. You just kind of throw guys out there for a fight, and hope they catch on.
I don't blame the UFC-only types for not knowing who Rampage was, but for booing? I'm glad Quinton called them out.
Christ, would any of us cheer if the Ducks beat the Kings for the Stanley Cup? It's the hardest trophy in sports to win. . .shouldn't we?
I would be pissed and disappointed, but would not boo. I respect the game too much to do that.
I respect any human being that gets into a cage/ring and makes a living beating the crap out of another person. It is not like 90% of the people there knew who Rampage was. Rampage did nothing to deserve that reaction. All he did was beat Chuck soundly and made an exciting fight. Anyone who boos that is a cretin and should immediately stop watching MMA.
These same fans would probably boo the Sakuraba/Newton fight in Pride because 99% of it was on the ground. However, it is probably the greatest exhibition of grappling I have ever seen and is widely considered one of the greatest fights in MMA history.
I would be pissed and disappointed, but would not boo. I respect the game too much to do that.
I respect any human being that gets into a cage/ring and makes a living beating the crap out of another person. It is not like 90% of the people there knew who Rampage was. Rampage did nothing to deserve that reaction. All he did was beat Chuck soundly and made an exciting fight. Anyone who boos that is a cretin and should immediately stop watching MMA.
These same fans would probably boo the Sakuraba/Newton fight in Pride because 99% of it was on the ground. However, it is probably the greatest exhibition of grappling I have ever seen and is widely considered one of the greatest fights in MMA history.
Respectfully disagree. This is the same crowd that started cheering with about 30 seconds left in the Parisyan/Burkman fight even though they were lying on the ground. That fight was exciting, and the crowd showed their approval. The ONLY reason they were booing rampage is because he knocked out their guy. It's THAT simple. Has nothing to do with respect or him being dirty or anything. It's just that the fan favorite got his ass whupped and they didn't like it. Having said that, they weren't booing when he was giving his speech until he called them out for it. He egged them on, they gave him what he wanted. No big deal.
What an upside down PPV. It turned out better than expected and this included me picking one single fight correctly(Karo). After the fact, I'm more shocked that Jardine got his ass handed to him. As for the booing, I'd probably boo Rampage too. I like Chuck and I don't like Rampage, simple as that. Now if only Hendo can beat him down...
What an upside down PPV. It turned out better than expected and this included me picking one single fight correctly(Karo). After the fact, I'm more shocked that Jardine got his ass handed to him. As for the booing, I'd probably boo Rampage too. I like Chuck and I don't like Rampage, simple as that. Now if only Hendo can beat him down...
I think Hendo fighting at 205 is a mistake. They should bring him in to fight at 185 vs. Anderson Silva or Franklin. Hendo has a good chin and good punching power, but I think Rampage will slam him to hell.
I still think Leben did more to finish the fight than Kalib, but I won't disagree with the way it was scored, except for the 30-27. But it is why I preferred the way Pride judges decided a fight, though it could be arbitrary
Hey Dana, if you worked "so hard" to make the UFC seem legit, why not edit out the part about the brawl outside? lol
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Yea that was a bit hypocritical. Talking about how he's been trying to show the public that the UFC isn't just street fights in a cage. Then he goes ahead and shows the street fighting and advertises it for ratings.
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Woo Rampage!! And now Hendo in the UFC, Rampage vs Henderson is going to be a great fight...then a possible rematch with Chuck and Rampage, a couple good fights down the road.
Also, I thought it was a great overall card.
I don't think Chuck deserves a rematch with Rampage although the UFC will give him one if he wins his next match. Rumors are he'll fight Wanderlei next.
I think Hendo fighting at 205 is a mistake. They should bring him in to fight at 185 vs. Anderson Silva or Franklin. Hendo has a good chin and good punching power, but I think Rampage will slam him to hell.
I still think Leben did more to finish the fight than Kalib, but I won't disagree with the way it was scored, except for the 30-27. But it is why I preferred the way Pride judges decided a fight, though it could be arbitrary
I actually agree with you in regards to the Leben fight. I thought he was pressing more and did more damage as well but it was close enough I cant complain.
Thought this was an early stoppage, but then again, Salaverry wasn't doing much on the ground when he was being hit. The "slam" wasn't much of one and Salaverry was right up as soon as the fight was stopped. Thought Martin was dumb for calling out Silva after that performance though. He'd get murdered.
Terry Martin is a very intriguing fighter at 185. He was clearly too small at LHW but it seems his power has transferred down to 185 and he's probably one of the more powerful guys in that division. I believe Martin also competes in grappling competitions like Abu Dhabi so he can probably hold his own on the ground as well. Middleweight isn't a stacked division by any means so there is an opportunity for Martin. I don't think he's ready for a title shot but a matchup with Anderson Silva would be interesting. His striking isn't precise as Silva's but I think it is just as powerful.
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Stephens vs. Thomas
Good showing by Stephens in this fight. Looks like he could really do something in the future. He had a great defense against a vet on that choke. I think he got a little anxious after that and got sloppy. Thomas is on a little bit of a roll right now, but I think he'll probably just be a gatekeeper in that division. Too much going in that one for him to really move in now. Never say never though.
Stephens looked alright and was game. But he looked a little to wild to be effective. I think Thomas has a little bit more that gate keeper status as this point. His ground game is just as good as anybody's in the UFC 155 division, probably only Joe Stevenson surpasses him. His standup seems to be improving some but he's even said that he doesn't like getting hit. BUt at least he fights torwards his strengths. Anyways, I think a fight with Huerta makes sense. Good clash of styles in that one.
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Parisyan vs. Burkman
Man I loved this fight. It was pretty one sided, but it was active as hell and both guys were going at it. Parisyan looked real good in there though. I'd like to see a rematch with him and Sanchez to be honest. Probably won't happen right now, but hell it would be fun to watch. He looked great at striking and his takedown defense was great once again.
Karo is one of my favorite fighters. He fought well against Burkman who was very game but probably should not have gone for the fences so much. Karo deserves a bigger fight than Karo right now. Especially since he's dominated Serra in the past. Not a title shot, but maybe the loser of GSP-Koscheck. Then if he wins that a title shot would be in order.
I think Hendo fighting at 205 is a mistake. They should bring him in to fight at 185 vs. Anderson Silva or Franklin. Hendo has a good chin and good punching power, but I think Rampage will slam him to hell.
I agree, I'd rather see Henderson fighting Silva or Franklin since I think 185 is his more natural weight class. Although at age 35, Hendo might be tired of cutting weight and 205 is a much easier weight for him to make.
Also I think a fight with Rampage is intriguing. Your right, Rampage will be the stronger man, but Henderson is a much more accomplished wrestler. Although 'Page will have more raw strength than Henderson, I think Henderson will be smart enough to stay out of positions where he could get powerbombed ala Arona. In the clinch he might even be more effective because of his outstanding Greco game. Plus Henderson has dangerous hands and Rampage chin still hasn't been tested.
Yea that was a bit hypocritical. Talking about how he's been trying to show the public that the UFC isn't just street fights in a cage. Then he goes ahead and shows the street fighting and advertises it for ratings.
Yea, it's all about the ratings. That and maybe making himself seem like the God of MMA and being the main man in making it more "legit."
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I respect any human being that gets into a cage/ring and makes a living beating the crap out of another person. It is not like 90% of the people there knew who Rampage was. Rampage did nothing to deserve that reaction. All he did was beat Chuck soundly and made an exciting fight. Anyone who boos that is a cretin and should immediately stop watching MMA.
These same fans would probably boo the Sakuraba/Newton fight in Pride because 99% of it was on the ground. However, it is probably the greatest exhibition of grappling I have ever seen and is widely considered one of the greatest fights in MMA history.
Great F'in post!!!!!!!! I totally agree. I think the only reason UFC fans were booing was out of ignorance becasue they don't really know who Rampage is and he decisively beat the only champ most have ever known. IMO
I was at the fight and was pretty disappointed to see and hear the fans boo. But I forgot all about it when I picked up my $260 winnings from the MGM sportsbook that Rampage won me. We hung out with him on his way into his afterparty at Ceasers, very cool guy and took pics with all of my friends and I.
On saturday I was at the Dynamite event at the Coliseum with Sakuraba/Gracie and again the boos were flying. The DJ (yes the DJ yapping during the fight) even encouraged the crowd to continue booing between 2 of the greats who paved the way for this sport, I was apalled at teh people around me. It seems as though if this new breed of MMA fan doesn't get a knock out they're disappointed and start booing. If they wanna see a brawl, download some kimbo slice videos or watch bum fights. Its sad that most don't understand MMA can be a chess match at times and just want to see a KO.
Great reference back to Saku/Newton fight Roody. Indeed one of the greatest if not the greatest of all time and my all-time favorite match. Sadly most will never see it or have even heard of Sakuraba or Newton. The Uriah Faber fight last night on VS was similar, a great display of BJJ and wrestling but still not close to Saku/Newton. It was a treat to see Saku on saturday away from Japan. I hope he comes back. Did anyone else go on saturday? I'll post pics later...
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Thought I'd revive this thread with the UFC PPV yesterday. Talk about mediocre, their was one great fight shown (Guida/Griffin) that could have gone either way and the remainder were underwhelming. The favorites (Griffin/Franklin) may have won their fights but they showed nothing to show they are returning to form from recent losses.
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