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About This Page: This is a discussion on Basketball within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. I have had my ups and downs with concerns over Kobe, and truthfully speaking, I was not in favor of getting rid of Shaq. But, does Kobe deserve the MVP
I have had my ups and downs with concerns over Kobe, and truthfully speaking, I was not in favor of getting rid of Shaq. But, does Kobe deserve the MVP this year?
But if Kobe doesn't piss and moan that he'll leave, do the Lakers go get Gasol?
The Lakers basically have the Pacific wrapped up. And they have 52 wins with a game left. Quite the turn around from last year. I'm not saying he did it his way. In fact, the reason why he deserves the MVP is because for once (after the pissing and moaning scene) his game did become more selfless. His shot attempts are down and his assists are up. He's become more vocal as a motivator and cheering section for the youngins and meanwhile has kept his game at that elevated level while the players around him have also elevated their own.
Like him or hate him, there's a tough case NOT to vote for the guy.
-Played majority of the year with a torn tendon on finger
-Andrew Bynum missed majority of the season
-Trevor Ariza missed majority of the season
-Pau Gasol missed about 2 weeks
-Has played every single game of this season
-Lakers were in first place when Bynum went down
-Lakers are currently in first place
-The best two way player
-and 4 of the last 5 years, has led the team in assists
So for those that want to vote on the basis of whoever has the best record in the west, then Kobe should win (Jamele Hill). and for those that want to vote that Lebron is the MVP because he has the best individual stat this season, then blatantly didn't follow that formula the last two years. And those that want to vote (Charles Barkley) the best player on the best team should vote for Boston. You're going to have ass faces like Chad ford and John Hollinger vote Kobe 3rd and 4th but it's nice to know that majority of the sportswriters have already spoken.
But if Kobe doesn't piss and moan that he'll leave, do the Lakers go get Gasol?
Yes, the Lakers would still get Gasol. That trade was a no-brainer. Kobe wanted to get a 75 year-old Kidd which I was hoping wouldn't happen. Either the Gasol trade fell into Kupchak's lap or Kup pulled a Jedi mind trick to get that trade done. It had nothin to do with Kobe though and I'm glad they didn't give into his demands of getting rid of Bynum.
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CP is still young, much younger than Kobe. The race is so "tight", but who gives a crap. Kobe has earned it. If Chris Paul is so good, give it to him next year. Because if Kobe gets shafted this year again, I doubt he'll ever win it in the future.
In the end, MVP awards don't mean squat. It's about the Championship Rings. I don't know if Kobe feels the same way or not... but I rather have Kobe earn 5 more championship rings if it means Chris Paul winning 10 MVPs in a row.
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YES, he deserved it last year and deserves it even more this year but his off court baby crap has everyone hating his tht is why he doesn't get all the votes.
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Kobe has been screwed in MVP balloting before. Don't be surprised if the media gives him the shaft again.
I know I won't be surprised. But oh well. I doubt Kobe will lose any sleep over it while he lies atop that bed of millions and three rings and the phone numbers of every hotel clerk in Colorado on his cell.
I know I won't be surprised. But oh well. I doubt Kobe will lose any sleep over it while he lies atop that bed of millions and three rings and the phone numbers of every hotel clerk in Colorado on his cell.
I hope he doesn't get it. I'd love to go into the playoffs with an even more motivated Kobe.
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In the end, MVP awards don't mean squat. It's about the Championship Rings. I don't know if Kobe feels the same way or not... but I rather have Kobe earn 5 more championship rings if it means Chris Paul winning 10 MVPs in a row.
Yea, I don't care if he gets it or not. I'd take a Lakers championship any day over Kobe getting the MVP. I cheer for the team, not the player. That said, he does deserve it this year (and deserved it in years past). With all the injuries that we have gone through this year, it is crazy that we are still at the top of the conference.
YES, he deserved it last year and deserves it even more this year but his off court baby crap has everyone hating his tht is why he doesn't get all the votes.
You are correct. Had Kobe not have his issue in Colorado, there wouldn't be as many Kobe haters as there still is today. Kobe would have won the MVPs easily over Nash and would still easily win it today.
But it's because of that, Kobe has to face an uphill battle big time. Not only with the fans, but with the media as well. The media doesn't know ANYTHING, and I don't see why it's them who gets to vote... but they're definitely fans of the game as well... So if the fans hate Kobe, they'll hate Kobe too.
I probably still sound bitter, but it's because of the Kobe trial that forced the NBA to fix the officiating between the Lakers/Pistons in the 2004 Finals. It was so one-sided and I couldn't remember anything that pissed me off as much as that. Detroit was allowed to play aggressive hack and slash Defense, while the Lakers were constantly called for touch fouls. It happened so much that the Lakers couldn't play Defense even if they wanted to. Thus resulting in what looked like a easy series win by Detroit. And most of the Lakers community knew at that moment... that the NBA did not want a potential rapist (at the time) to be a champion.
But that's all in the past. Back to the topic. If Kobe doesn't win the MVP though this year, will the voters for Chris Paul be able to explain why Kobe didn't get it? What more does he have to do? He was clearly the MVP over Nash and Dirk the past few years. And if this MVP race is considered "as close as ever", then something is clearly not right.
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Does Kobe deserve the MVP this year? 
