Want less ads?
Join Team LGK
for only $5


Official LA Kings Shop

LA Kings Hats icon
Men's Apparel icon
Women's Apparel icon
Kid's Wear icon
Collectibles and Memorabilia icon
Home / Office icon
Toys and Games icon
DVD's and CD's icon
Kings Gifts icon
Kings Auctions
Hockey Books
Entertainment Books

iPod Connection
LGK T-Shirts

NHL Personal Checks


Tag Cloud
2008 appreciation back bank birthday call camp coach cup day deal dean lombardi derby dodger dolls ducks free game good happy hextall hickey hockey interview jason july kings kopitar lgk lightning lombardi long make mccain murray news nhl obama offer official ottawa penguins photos pics prospects resign rinkrat rip rock roller rumor san scf scrimmage season sharks show sign signs team terry thread tickets trade traded video week wings year years
Rinkrat's iPod  



Go Back   Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum > LetsGoKings.com > Soccer
Register GalleryBlogs FAQ Calendar Arcade Wagering

Notices


Thank you for crosschecking our sponsors!

About This Page: This is a discussion on Soccer within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum.
Originally Posted by ASUcruz Keep in mind, "far more" was referring to a few aspects of soccer. Not as players in general. And in the last 10 matches of last

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old August 13th, 2007, 01:40 AM   #91
Doc jinxed me!
 
Mr. Irreverent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,970
Thanks: 292
Thanked 71 Times in 13 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member
Karma:
Mr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond repute
Mr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 1
Points: 7,023, Level: 12
Points: 7,023, Level: 12 Points: 7,023, Level: 12 Points: 7,023, Level: 12
Level up: 32%, 827 Points needed
Level up: 32% Level up: 32% Level up: 32%
Activity: 47%
Activity: 47% Activity: 47% Activity: 47%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
Keep in mind, "far more" was referring to a few aspects of soccer. Not as players in general. And in the last 10 matches of last season I saw Wayne Rooney help lift United to a title. A relegation battle is a high pressure situation but times that by 10 and you get the pressure sitation of a title race. Not to mention United were playing in 3 competitions as opposed to the one Tevez was playing. Yea, Tevez showed his hunger to win, has Rooney showed anything less? Especially playing for United?

As far as discipline, in a United shirt Rooney is a different animal. He's still, well quite frankly an ******* but he wasn't sent off last year and if I can recall correctly he has only been sent off once for United. For England, I'll agree with you saying that mentally Rooney is a bit of a train wreck but the England set up can be a bit of a train wreck to be honest.



Tevez was great at the Olympics but the Olympics aren't a big deal in the whole scheme of things in soccer. First of all performing great as a teenager is great and all but its a U-23 tournament...... You get the three overage players but for the most part its a U-23 tournament. And even for it being a U-23 tournament not that many teams send the best U-23 team they can send. From your statement you make it seem like Tevez led a decent Argentina to glory by doing everything on the pitch. He played well but that Argentina team was stacked and was by far the best team in that tournament. Take a look at the squads in that tourney, not a single team comes close to the quality Argentina put out there.

I'm not taking away anything from Tevez, but Olympic soccer is just not that great an accomplishment... Again it's a U-23 tourney...



I'm not sure what being protected by Ferguson means. I mean he was performing at a pretty high level for United as a teenager. That's not very easy. I respect the Argentina and Brazillian leagues but I think peforming at a high level for Manchester United is proving yourself enough.

MESSI >>> Tevez & Rooney
__________________
Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too. - Voltaire
Mr. Irreverent is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 01:45 AM   #92
You'll Never Walk Alone
 
redxalonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 977
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
redxalonso has a reputation beyond repute
redxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Level up: 65%, 318 Points needed
Level up: 65% Level up: 65% Level up: 65%
Activity: 10%
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
Default

I never questioned Rooney's hunger to win, just his bad temper.

ASU, if you were to throw down 30 million to buy either Tevez or Rooney and not both, who would you acquire?
__________________
<font size=4>You'll Never Walk Alone</font>
redxalonso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 01:52 AM   #93
Let the kids play
 
ASUcruz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,887
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 6 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
ASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond repute
ASUcruz has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 1
Points: 12,052, Level: 16
Points: 12,052, Level: 16 Points: 12,052, Level: 16 Points: 12,052, Level: 16
Level up: 1%, 1,598 Points needed
Level up: 1% Level up: 1% Level up: 1%
Activity: 54%
Activity: 54% Activity: 54% Activity: 54%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
I never questioned Rooney's hunger to win, just his bad temper.

ASU, if you were to throw down 30 million to buy either Tevez or Rooney and not both, who would you acquire?
Let me see how Tevez does in a title run and I'll let you know!
__________________
"11:19 -- You're not gonna believe this, but J.D. Drew took a called third strike to end the inning.
(Note: Dodgers, Braves and Cardinals fans everywhere are nodding and saying, "Yup ... been there, done that.")
ASUcruz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #94
You'll Never Walk Alone
 
redxalonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 977
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
redxalonso has a reputation beyond repute
redxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Level up: 65%, 318 Points needed
Level up: 65% Level up: 65% Level up: 65%
Activity: 10%
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
Default

[quote=Mashiasu;904225]
Quote:
redxalonso, you are in my mind a eurosnob
Well thank you.

Quote:
I'm a Spurs fan,
Sorry dude, but what the hell were you guys thinking not buying a left winger or two in the off season?

In hind sight, the money was wastefully spent on Bent when it could have gotten you guys what you actually needed.
redxalonso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 02:27 AM   #95
You'll Never Walk Alone
 
redxalonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 977
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
redxalonso has a reputation beyond repute
redxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Level up: 65%, 318 Points needed
Level up: 65% Level up: 65% Level up: 65%
Activity: 10%
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASUcruz View Post
Let me see how Tevez does in a title run and I'll let you know!
You're taking the easy way out.

Take a stab based on your current assessment of both players.

Personally, had Tevez played with Scholes, Giggs, C. Ronaldo, and Carrick, I think he'd do just as well as Rooney in a title run.
redxalonso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 02:28 AM   #96
You'll Never Walk Alone
 
redxalonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 977
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
redxalonso has a reputation beyond repute
redxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Level up: 65%, 318 Points needed
Level up: 65% Level up: 65% Level up: 65%
Activity: 10%
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
Default

Essien is injured. Yes!
redxalonso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 06:47 PM   #97
Doc jinxed me!
 
Mr. Irreverent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,970
Thanks: 292
Thanked 71 Times in 13 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member
Karma:
Mr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond repute
Mr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 1
Points: 7,023, Level: 12
Points: 7,023, Level: 12 Points: 7,023, Level: 12 Points: 7,023, Level: 12
Level up: 32%, 827 Points needed
Level up: 32% Level up: 32% Level up: 32%
Activity: 47%
Activity: 47% Activity: 47% Activity: 47%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post
Essien is injured. Yes!
So is Rooney... (Btw, wtf is this <------)
__________________
Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too. - Voltaire
Mr. Irreverent is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 06:57 PM   #98
You'll Never Walk Alone
 
redxalonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 977
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
redxalonso has a reputation beyond repute
redxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Level up: 65%, 318 Points needed
Level up: 65% Level up: 65% Level up: 65%
Activity: 10%
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Irreverent View Post
So is Rooney... (Btw, wtf is this <------)
It's Rooney with Hepatitis A
redxalonso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 07:00 PM   #99
2nd Scoring Line
 
Mashiasu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 439
Thanks: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
Mashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond repute
Mashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond reputeMashiasu has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 2,434, Level: 7
Points: 2,434, Level: 7 Points: 2,434, Level: 7 Points: 2,434, Level: 7
Level up: 41%, 416 Points needed
Level up: 41% Level up: 41% Level up: 41%
Activity: 3%
Activity: 3% Activity: 3% Activity: 3%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post



Sorry dude, but what the hell were you guys thinking not buying a left winger or two in the off season?

In hind sight, the money was wastefully spent on Bent when it could have gotten you guys what you actually needed.
yeah Spurs can never find a good left winger, I don't know why, just like the Kings can never find a goaltender,the Dodgers a third basemen or the Bears a QB some things will always be a mystery.

I think the Bent fee was ridiculous but he does have a brilliant first touch and I feel in the long run He will be worth the money alas I fear He will be with one of the big four within 3 years and Spurs will recoup their money and still be on the edge of cracking the top four with limited success.
Mashiasu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 07:10 PM   #100
Let the kids play
 
ASUcruz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,887
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 6 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
ASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond repute
ASUcruz has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 1
Points: 12,052, Level: 16
Points: 12,052, Level: 16 Points: 12,052, Level: 16 Points: 12,052, Level: 16
Level up: 1%, 1,598 Points needed
Level up: 1% Level up: 1% Level up: 1%
Activity: 54%
Activity: 54% Activity: 54% Activity: 54%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redxalonso View Post

Personally, had Tevez played with Scholes, Giggs, C. Ronaldo, and Carrick, I think he'd do just as well as Rooney in a title run.
It works both ways, I think Rooney would have won a gold medal if you put him in place of Tevez in that Argentine team.

I know for sure how Rooney performs in a title run. People say he had an off year last year and he still had 23 goals in all competitions. I know Rooney can play on both wings and in a support and main striker role.

Tevez for all his talents has proven his worth in half a season of premier league play. The South American leagues are great and all and so are the olympics(again a glorified U-23 tourney) but some of you guys are selling Rooney short. Somebody said Tevez is twice the player Rooney is? That's a bit of a joke.
ASUcruz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 07:18 PM   #101
You'll Never Walk Alone
 
redxalonso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 977
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
redxalonso has a reputation beyond repute
redxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond reputeredxalonso has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9 Points: 4,232, Level: 9
Level up: 65%, 318 Points needed
Level up: 65% Level up: 65% Level up: 65%
Activity: 10%
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mashiasu View Post
yeah Spurs can never find a good left winger, I don't know why, just like the Kings can never find a goaltender,the Dodgers a third basemen or the Bears a QB some things will always be a mystery.

I think the Bent fee was ridiculous but he does have a brilliant first touch and I feel in the long run He will be worth the money alas I fear He will be with one of the big four within 3 years and Spurs will recoup their money and still be on the edge of cracking the top four with limited success.
So, is Martin Jol the right man take the Spurs further?

By the looks of the new and improved Newcastle, we could be talking about the big 6 by this time next season, that's including the Spurs because Dawson, King, and Lennon are still out injured.

btw, Younes Kaboul looks promising.
redxalonso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 13th, 2007, 07:49 PM   #102
Let the kids play
 
ASUcruz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,887
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 6 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Award(s): 0
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
ASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond reputeASUcruz has a reputation beyond repute