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About This Page: This is a discussion on Baseball within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by ibleedkngs
I wouldn't mind seeing Beltre back.
I would.
I highly doubt Matt Kemp will be traded as one of the reasons CC is not here is because the Brewers wanted him to be included in any trade proposal (at least this is what i'm guessing reading all the post trade reports). I see Laroche and a Mcdonald traded for a Christian Guzman or Laroche and a second level prospect for Beltre and some money. Matt Kemp is showing the Dodgers these last couple of games what he can do. All the young players played well last night including Laroche reaching base his first three at bats...
If anyone gets traded it will be Laroche and hopefully he'll play very well these next few games to jack up his value or play well enough to convince the management that he's the real deal.
If we traded LaRoche AND McDonald for Guzman (I wouldn't trade either of them for Guzman straight up....762 OPS, 5 HRs....the opposite of what we need)...I would be super, super pissed.
There really aren't any promising available infielders, are there?
There really aren't any promising available infielders, are there?
No middle infielders it seems. Or 3Bs for that matter. Texiera is the biggest fish but doens't make sense to acquire him for a few months.
__________________ "11:19 -- You're not gonna believe this, but J.D. Drew took a called third strike to end the inning.
(Note: Dodgers, Braves and Cardinals fans everywhere are nodding and saying, "Yup ... been there, done that.")
At least the Dodgers and White Sox had scouts at the A's game at Tampa last night, and those are two teams in the mix for Huston Street, whose so-so season could keep down the price on him (he's 17 for 22 on save tries). The Brewers also have scouted Street, who didn't get into Monday's game. The Yankees, Rays, Mets, Phillies and Red Sox (though Justin Masterson should help them) and Mets are among other teams who could be in the relief market, as could the Diamondbacks (though a switch to the pen for starter Micah Owings might help).
The Dodgers appear most interested in a reliever, especially after losing closer Takashi Saito at least until September, and a shortstop. Some execs think the Dodgers should be looking to upgrade their offense, but maybe they know best, as they beat the Rockies 16-10 on Monday night in a game in which the Rockies scored in the final seven innings (exposing L.A.'s current bullpen) yet still got blown out. L.A.'s offense seems to have improved since Don Mattingly took over as hitting coach after the All-Star break.
The relief market isn't bad, with closers Brian Fuentes and Damaso Marte available and another closer, Baltimore's George Sherrill, expected to be available, as well. Ron Mahay is having a big year for the Royals, and could help someone. And if the Braves fall out of it, perhaps Mike Gonzalez and Will Ohman will be on the market, as well. Jon Rauch, Chad Bradford and Arthur Rhodes are some other accomplished relievers who could be dealt.
Mike (Albany, NY): Hi Buster, It sounds like Andy LaRoche is on his way out of L.A. Any idea if the Dodgers are in on Beltre? Or another SS/3B?
SportsNation Buster Olney: Mike: There are a bunch of teams who've talked about LaRoche, but they've gotten very frustrated in dealing with the Dodgers. He is the one guy among the many L.A. prospects that rival execs say is clearly, absolutely available. So yes, I think he'll be traded. To whom, I'm not yet sure.
THIRD BASE
Atkins, Yes
Cantu, Maybe
Kouzmanoff, Maybe
Gordon, Yes
Crede, No
Beltre, No
Blake, No
Mora, No
Feliz, No
Bautista, No
Encarnacion, No
Hall, No
Castillo, No
Rolen, No
Hannahan, No
Zimmerman, No
Inge, No
Wigginton, No
Mientkiewicz , No
Ojeda, No
Rob Neyer makes a lot of sense with his latest blog post
Quote:
Let's start with LaRoche … As I've been saying since sometime in 2007, LaRoche is the best third baseman the Dodgers have. Blake DeWitt got off to a cute little start this season, but at the moment his .682 OPS is the worst in the majors among qualifying third basemen. Since May -- June 1 through this moment -- he's batting .195 and slugging .228 in 38 games. My guess? It took roughly two months for pitchers to figure out what DeWitt can't hit, and now that's all he's getting. We're talking about a guy who opened last season in Class A, and finished with a .306 OBP in 45 Double-A games. DeWitt doesn't turn 23 until next month and probably has a fine future, but at this moment he's simply not good enough to play regularly for a contending team.
Is LaRoche good enough? His minor-league stats suggest that he's been good enough for a couple of years; that he was ready before he turned 23. His major-league stats suggest -- though with much less confidence -- that he's not. And he's had some real problems staying healthy. But the Dodgers are locked in a death match with the Diamondbacks, and instead of trading LaRoche they should be hoping he can give them two good months. At this moment.
As for Kershaw, it's clear that he's too good for the Southern League … but then, didn't we know that already? When the Dodgers promoted him in May, he had a 2.28 ERA. What he hadn't done was pitch deep into his starts; he pitched into the seventh just once in nine starts. In his eight-start stint with the big club, he never pitched into the seventh inning and usually didn't get into the sixth.
Yes, he's been a little better in his second go-around with Jacksonville, but I have a question: What's wrong with Triple-A? Sure, Las Vegas is a tough environment for a young pitcher … but isn't the National League pretty tough, too? I think Kershaw's probably good enough to survive in the majors right now, and give the Dodgers five innings per start down the stretch. Isn't that setting the bar pretty low, though?
I'm impressed with the Dodgers' young players, but I'm terribly unimpressed with how the Dodgers have handled them. You know how long it took James Loney and Matt Kemp to get the playing time they deserved. This year, the Dodgers' top five prospects were Kershaw, LaRoche, Chin-Lung Hu, Scott Elbert, and DeWitt. Hu's suffered through a terrible season, Elbert's back in action as a reliever after rehabbing from shoulder surgery for a year, and you know what I think about the other guys.
Maybe there's a happy ending to this story. But Dodgers GM Ned Colletti has done terribly with high-priced veterans, and now his record with cheap kids isn't looking so hot, either.
The Natural
