Want less ads?
Join Team LGK
for only $5


Official LA Kings Shop

LA Kings Hats icon
Men's Apparel icon
Women's Apparel icon
Kid's Wear icon
Collectibles and Memorabilia icon
Home / Office icon
Toys and Games icon
DVD's and CD's icon
Kings Gifts icon
Hockey Books
Entertainment Books

iPod Connection
LGK T-Shirts

NHL Personal Checks


NHL Interactive
Get 10% off
your new Alternate Jersey

Rinkrat's iPod  




  Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum > LetsGoKings.com > NHL Talk
Register GalleryBlogs FAQ Calendar Arcade Wagering

Notices


Thank you for crosschecking our sponsors!

About This Page: This is a discussion on NHL Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=224374&hubName=nhl Sources suggest the Ducks are prepared to move any defenceman other than Chris Pronger who is under contract for next season. That list includes Mathieu Schneider, Francois Beauchemin and

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:01 PM   #1
You forget so easy
 
Goallum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,076
Thanks: 147
Thanked 136 Times in 22 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member

Karma: 35865194
Goallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond repute
Goallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond repute
Default A shocking (!) development: Niedermayer likely back soon

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=224374&hubName=nhl

Quote:
Sources suggest the Ducks are prepared to move any defenceman other than Chris Pronger who is under contract for next season. That list includes Mathieu Schneider, Francois Beauchemin and Sean O'Donnell.

The irony is that while it may be necessary to trade a player to free up “tagging” space for next season, the chances of Niedermayer coming back to play next season are slim to non-existent. Those close to Niedermayer believe that he will play the balance of this season but isn't at all likely to play next season.
Man, what a clusterf***!
__________________

Last edited by Goallum; December 4th, 2007 at 04:04 PM.
Goallum is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 4th, 2007, 04:03 PM   #2
devenir gris
 
gescom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 22,131
Thanks: 91
Thanked 416 Times in 61 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma: 56481338
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute
Default

i wonder who they'll trade... that's gonna be one bitter motherf***er, right there!
__________________
GESCOM: it's never too early to start beefing up your obituary!
gescom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:03 PM   #3
Team Monkey
 
mitchrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 16,546
Thanks: 450
Thanked 124 Times in 22 Posts
Blog Entries: 17
Crosschecks: 79
High Scores 1
Contributing Member

Karma: 80418111
mitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond repute
mitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond reputemitchrock has a reputation beyond repute
Default

and why is this surprising?
__________________
"Let's go this way. It's shorter." - LGK Midget
mitchrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:04 PM   #4
You forget so easy
 
Goallum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,076
Thanks: 147
Thanked 136 Times in 22 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member

Karma: 35865194
Goallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond repute
Goallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond reputeGoallum has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gescom View Post
i wonder who they'll trade... that's gonna be one bitter motherf***er, right there!
Willsie and a 4th for Sean O'Donnell! Do it, Deano!
__________________
Goallum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:09 PM   #5
Fist ****
 
CarriedBySix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,633
Thanks: 75
Thanked 53 Times in 14 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma: 6985011
CarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond repute
CarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond reputeCarriedBySix has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Schneider
CarriedBySix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:21 PM   #6
Wishful Thinking
 
Birdman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,690
Thanks: 3
Thanked 35 Times in 6 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member

Karma: 15704060
Birdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond repute
Birdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would think that Beuchy would be the one to go.

WTF IS OP?
Birdman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:22 PM   #7
I like the alt logo, btw
 
Watti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,447
Thanks: 198
Thanked 90 Times in 12 Posts
Images: 6
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 36
Contributing Member

Karma: 12541858
Watti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond repute
Watti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond reputeWatti has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Didn't see this one coming...

[/sarcasm]
Watti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 04:57 PM   #8
Lord Stanley
 
Kubrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,015
Thanks: 54
Thanked 67 Times in 6 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Crosschecks: 564
High Scores 0
Karma: 25937817
Kubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond repute
Kubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Burke definitely wants to move Schneider's contract but I can't see anyone taking that one. Beauch and OD both make in the 1.6M range so I'm not sure how much cap relief they'd get by moving either.

The Ducks are not in a good place right now.
__________________
.500 is the goal. Focus, people. Focus!
Kubrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 05:56 PM   #9
Wishful Thinking
 
Birdman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 5,690
Thanks: 3
Thanked 35 Times in 6 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member

Karma: 15704060
Birdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond repute
Birdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond reputeBirdman has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Die Radio Die View Post
Burke definitely wants to move Schneider's contract but I can't see anyone taking that one. Beauch and OD both make in the 1.6M range so I'm not sure how much cap relief they'd get by moving either.

The Ducks are not in a good place right now.
So your saying the only reason he signed Schneids was because he thought that SN was going to retire? I doubt that.

The snag in this could be the extension that they gave to Getzlaf (and Kunitz for that matter). The "float" on next years cap is the problem, not this season's salary cap. Combined those two account for $9M against the Cap next season, which with SN returning looks to be close to $53M.

Oh, and Corey Perry isn't signed yet.
Birdman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #10
Ole!
 
Bandit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 11,326
Thanks: 32
Thanked 111 Times in 19 Posts
Crosschecks: 13
High Scores 0
Contributing Member

Karma: 28333261
Bandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond repute
Bandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond reputeBandit has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gescom View Post
i wonder who they'll trade... that's gonna be one bitter motherf***er, right there!
Depends on where he goes doesn't it? It's not like the ducks are lighting the world on fire right now...
__________________
Bandit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 07:12 PM   #11
The Kids Are Alright
 
K 4 L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,794
Thanks: 33
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma: 432819
K 4 L has a reputation beyond repute
K 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond reputeK 4 L has a reputation beyond repute
Default

He is gonna come back and be average until the postseason, then be a huge part of whatever they do in the playoffs after he gets his legs and be a hero if they have a good run. great career of hard work, but what a lazy and selfish thing to do, skip training camp, all those practices and a huge chunk of the year then come back at such on oh so perfect time and leave one of your teammates in the dust, wow.
K 4 L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 07:12 PM   #12
Lord Stanley
 
Kubrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,015
Thanks: 54
Thanked 67 Times in 6 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Crosschecks: 564
High Scores 0
Karma: 25937817
Kubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond repute
Kubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond reputeKubrick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
So your saying the only reason he signed Schneids was because he thought that SN was going to retire? I doubt that.

The snag in this could be the extension that they gave to Getzlaf (and Kunitz for that matter). The "float" on next years cap is the problem, not this season's salary cap. Combined those two account for $9M against the Cap next season, which with SN returning looks to be close to $53M.

Oh, and Corey Perry isn't signed yet.
11 Million dollars over 2 years for a 38 year old defenseman does not seem like a wise move if you think Scott is coming back. If he felt like Niedermayer would return this season Burke committed 18.625 Million cap dollars to 3 defensmen for this and next season while Getzlaf and Perry needed to be re-upped.
Kubrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 07:40 PM   #13
Conn Smythe Winner TWICE
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,984
Thanks: 6
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma: 42717798
OrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond repute
OrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdman View Post
I would think that Beuchy would be the one to go.

WTF IS OP?
Right here man. Plain and simple Schneider is the one that needs to go. His contract will kill the team next season. I'd like to keep all 3 but it's not likely.

Funny thing is, if you jettison Schneider and Niedermayer retires for good next season we are right back to where we started except we would be carrying the $4mil albatross that is better known as Bertuzzi's contract.

I'd like to look into the numbers but honestly, I'm effing lazy right now.
OrangePuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 08:10 PM   #14
Cry baby, CRY!!!
 
Mr. Irreverent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,929
Thanks: 637
Thanked 294 Times in 34 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member

Karma: 49567870
Mr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond repute
Mr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Irreverent has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The Ducks ain't winning **** w/o Selanne.
__________________
The Kings 2008-2009 season: A LA CHINGADA!!!
Mr. Irreverent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #15
devenir gris
 
gescom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 22,131
Thanks: 91
Thanked 416 Times in 61 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma: 56481338
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
Right here man. Plain and simple Schneider is the one that needs to go. His contract will kill the team next season. I'd like to keep all 3 but it's not likely.

Funny thing is, if you jettison Schneider and Niedermayer retires for good next season we are right back to where we started except we would be carrying the $4mil albatross that is better known as Bertuzzi's contract.

I'd like to look into the numbers but honestly, I'm effing lazy right now.
i think it would be in terrificly poor taste to do that to a player like Mathieu Schneider... that MAY also possibly have a bad side-effect in terms of signing future free agents.
gescom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2007, 08:36 PM