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Originally Posted by Arsenic33 Its a hockey message board buddy. I didnt actually sit down and do research on the exact issues that come up and cases that deal with

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Old January 23rd, 2008, 07:50 PM   #37
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Its a hockey message board buddy. I didnt actually sit down and do research on the exact issues that come up and cases that deal with it; i was just throwing some possibilities up in the air to point out that a valid legal paper can be written about hockey.
well, thanks, learned hand. i had no idea this was a hockey message board. that mastery of evidence is going to serve you well in court.

ask your professors how effective it is to insult and disrespect senior attorneys when you enter the legal profession.

i wish i could be a 1-L again so i could know everything.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 07:58 PM   #38
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... for the class, i'm supposed to write a paper about a current sports legal issue. i'm supposed to discuss who the parties are, what are their issues and arguments, the outcome (if there has been an outcome), and its future effects. ...
I'd encourage you to write about the 2002 Britney Cecil death, followed by the NHLs decision to put nets up behind the goals in every arena:

1) Why did the warning on the back of the ticket (and the PA announcement before every game about flying pucks going into the stands) not provide the NHL with adequate courage to defend their right to offer their product on their terms?

2) What responsibilities does the paying customer have to (a) understand the risks they take (which are communicated to them clearly) and (b) exercise the fortitude to walk away from a transaction if they don't want to take those risks?

3) What does it portend for property rights in America when merely the fear of a Cecil-family lawsuit (not even the actual threat of one) can cause panic in a $2-billion sports league whose commisioner is an attorney?


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... i thought i'd change gears and discuss another current NHL litigation matter...the todd bertuzzi/steve moore incident. basically my question is what is the status of that case? ...
I think the guy who writes this blog ....
http://www.mc79hockey.com/
.... is a lawyer, and may be able to help you with the current state of the Godzilla (Bert) vs. Mothra (Moore) case.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:11 PM   #39
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Write about how the Bruce McNall with the help of Al Davis, the Coliseum Commission and a couple of Hollywood types baited Jerry Buss into selling the Kings to him.

All with the hopes that he, Buss, would be able to buy then transfer an NFL franchise to LA and build a stadium on Hollywood Park Parking lot.

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Hmmmmm .... there were already 2 NFL franchises in LA during the Buss-2-McNall handoff of the Kings, circa 1985-88.
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well, thanks, learned hand. i had no idea this was a hockey message board. that mastery of evidence is going to serve you well in court.

ask your professors how effective it is to insult and disrespect senior attorneys when you enter the legal profession.

i wish i could be a 1-L again so i could know everything.
My identity is hidden on the message board. In real life I have the common sense not to insult a "senior attorney". But here its open season.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:34 PM   #41
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My identity is hidden on the message board. In real life I have the common sense not to insult a "senior attorney". But here its open season.
so, if there was any doubt remaining that you're a douche....
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:46 PM   #42
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the only thing that could possibly make this thread better would be a guest appearance from Neil.

Thanks, boys for showing the entire board that a higher education doesn't exempt one from the desire to e-catfight.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:57 PM   #43
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Thanks, boys for showing the entire board that a higher education doesn't exempt one from the desire to e-catfight.
law school is all about the e-catfight.
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i thought law school prepped you for LA Law power suits and Boston Legal like smarmy wit??
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I have to agree with the guy doing the project. If you want to be a judge, after law school you have do a judiicial clerkship which involves researching cases. When you apply to any clerkship the one thing they look for is whether you are good at research and how well you can write memorandums.

I can see why experienced lawyers would argue that the knowledge learned in law school has nothing to do with the actual practice of law. For fields like criminal defense, contract law, or bankrupcy matters (just to name a few), researching cases might not be the majority of your everyday job. Also, if you are an experienced attorney, you probably spent 10% of your time researching because a) you already know the applicable statutes/case law related to the area you are in or b) you have lawyers fresh out of law school doing that work for you.

I've talked to a lot of my law professors and they all say that the most important thing you can learn in law school is research and writing skills. The experienced attorney that had posted above may not have found those skills useful in his practice but that is not the norm.
I agree with this, especially the part about knowing the vast majority of applicable law already in ones particular fielld of practice. In my field, i see the same issues and hear the same arguments over and over again. Despite that, I still have to keep up with the case law on a daily basis as well as the regular occuring changes in statutory law. Of course, every once in awhile, some new factual twist comes up that wil require research.

I never said that research isn't important. To the contrary, it is an essential skill, but as you pointed out, it is just a small component of everyday practice for an experienced attorney (unless research is what you're paid solely to do). The law student who started the thread insinuated the practice of law primarily deals with research and writing. That may be true for a first or second year associate, but I think that any practicing attorney here could tell you that's not all the practice of law is cracked up to be.


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Also, the person i responded to was not a judge i was just joking around when i wrote the "dissent".
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Nobody is saying that.
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the only thing that could possibly make this thread better would be a guest appearance from Neil.

Thanks, boys for showing the entire board that a higher education doesn't exempt one from the desire to e-catfight.
If a thread full of lawyer-types DIDN'T involve a heated argument, I'd be seriously concerned!
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