Zatkoff signing official

[TonySCV]

Ziggy Stardust had an excellent post over on HFBoards and I thought I'd share it here re: a pattern for developing goaltending that mirrors San Jose in many ways:

Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust

Just look at how the Sharks were able to stockpile goalies, develop them and then acquire other assets for them.

Start with 98-99 when the tandem was Vernon and Shields with Nabokov in the minors.

Then in 99-00, Shields moved ahead of Vernon and Nabokov was the third stringer who appeared in some games while Kiprusoff and Hedberg played in the minors.

The Sharks would later trade Mike Vernon to Florida for Radek Dvorak.

In 00-01, Nabokov becomes the starter, Shields is traded to the Ducks along with Jeff Friesen for Teemu Selanne. After Shields was dealt, Kiprusoff became Nabokov's backup and Toskala is now the starter in the minors.

The Sharks would also deal Hedberg to the Penguins along with Bobby Dollas for Jeff Norton.

In 01-02, Nabokov starts with Kiprusoff backing up and Toskala starting in the minors.

02-03 again, Nabokov starts with Kiprusoff getting a few more starts and Toskala getting some playing time in the NHL as well. I believe this was the season Nabokov held out for a brief period of time.

Then in 03-04, Kiprusoff is traded to Calgary for a 2nd round pick which turned out to be Marc-Edouard Vlasic and Toskala moved up to backup Nabokov.

From 05-06 until 06-07, the goaltending tandem has been Nabokov and Toskala, until Toskala was dealt last summer along with Mark Bell to Toronto for the Leafs' 1st and 2nd round round picks in 07. The Sharks would use those picks to move up and select Logan Couture.

Now the Sharks still have Nabokov starting, proving himself to be one of the best goalies in the NHL and have a couple of promising young goalies in Thomas Greiss and Dmitri Patzold on their farm team.

Years of stockpiling goaltenders has helped stabilize San Jose in net and has also helped them strengthen other parts of their team thanks to their goaltending depth.

The Kings are setting themselves up to have the same method of progression every year with their goaltending.

It's really interesting to slot the Kings goalie prospects in that progression and you can see where the Kings organization will be heading over the next few years.

- T

[Ararat15]

Originally Posted by TonySCV

Ziggy Stardust had an excellent post over on HFBoards and I thought I'd share it here re: a pattern for developing goaltending that mirrors San Jose in many ways:



It's really interesting to slot the Kings goalie prospects in that progression and you can see where the Kings organization will be heading over the next few years.

- T

Best thing about that post? Every single one of those goalies the Sharks had played consistently at the NHL level, whether it was as a starter or a backup. Just another bright spot in case anyone was wondering if DL is ever going to be able to get us a starter.

[Kopitard]

Originally Posted by VegasHockey

Awesome, totally awesome.

[going5hole]

I wouldn't doubt if Lombardi drafted Harri Sateri or Jakob Markstom with our first pick in the second round. He normally picks a goalie or two a year, so might as well get a good one.

Originally Posted by TonySCV

Ziggy Stardust had an excellent post over on HFBoards and I thought I'd share it here re: a pattern for developing goaltending that mirrors San Jose in many ways:



It's really interesting to slot the Kings goalie prospects in that progression and you can see where the Kings organization will be heading over the next few years.

- T

[VegasHockey]

Originally Posted by Kopitard

Couldn't help myself there, it was on TV last night, haha.

[DiehardKingsFan]

We've got 2 promising goaltenders in the system with Bernier and Zatkoff. Hopefully we pick the better of the 2 to anchor our franchise.

[TonySCV]

Originally Posted by going5hole

I wouldn't doubt if Lombardi drafted Harri Sateri or Jakob Markstom with our first pick in the second round. He normally picks a goalie or two a year, so might as well get a good one.

Seems reasonable. I don't expect him to stop. I still get a laugh out of the fact that outside of Jamie Storr, the Kings have never bred their own goaltending talent. That's insane for a 40 year franchise. We have no many now I hardly know how to react.

He's gotten some pretty nice returns on goaltenders he's dealt over the years as well. You probably can have too many at some point, but given how long they take to develop, may as well stockpile - he does have 3 picks in Round 2.

- T

[DiehardKingsFan]

Originally Posted by TonySCV

I still get a laugh out of the fact that outside of Jamie Storr, the Kings have never bred their own goaltending talent. That's insane for a 40 year franchise.

Agreed. It's really nice to see Dean bring us all these strong prospects between the pipes. We're going to have a strong team for years to come thanks to the foundation he's laying.

[Die Radio Die]

Originally Posted by TonySCV

Seems reasonable. I don't expect him to stop. I still get a laugh out of the fact that outside of Jamie Storr, the Kings have never bred their own goaltending talent. That's insane for a 40 year franchise. We have no many now I hardly know how to react.

He's gotten some pretty nice returns on goaltenders he's dealt over the years as well. You probably can have too many at some point, but given how long they take to develop, may as well stockpile - he does have 3 picks in Round 2.

- T

Lombardi did get acceptable returns when he dealt his goalies in San Jose but notice how after Lombardi and Sutter were given the ax(Dec. '02) they part with what turns out to be the best of the lot for one draft choice. Sutter(GM of the Flames at the time) fleeced Doug Wilson into parting with the best of the bunch for a lone 2nd round pick. Darryl Sutter is a bad man.

That trade, specifically, was mentioned at the Breakfast with the GM regarding how you've got to know your players better than anyone else does when you're trying to make a trade.

Also, I'm going to have to do some more research but so far I can't seem to find any trades involving Doug Wilson and either of Darryl Sutter or Dean Lombardi since that butchering of the Kiprusoff deal. Doug Wilson got schooled, badly.

[chdlousen]

Good to have Zatkoff in our system. We have some solid goalie iprospects, but they are still prospects! Keep that in mind.

[TonySCV]