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I know how it works if football but I'm not sure on the rules with hockey for that. I was thinking head-to-head but the Kings obviously didn'

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Old March 29th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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I know how it works if football but I'm not sure on the rules with hockey for that. I was thinking head-to-head but the Kings obviously didn't play the Lightning this year, anyways, thank for your help.
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Old March 29th, 2008, 12:33 PM   #2
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Whoever has the most wins, I believe.
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Old March 29th, 2008, 12:51 PM   #3
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Its all been covered in this sticky:

The Kings Draft Pick - countdown to the lottery
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Old March 29th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #4
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To learn more, go to Wolvie's Kings Archair GM thread that is stickied at the top and then look at post #4. It has links for all things draft related. You want the link regarding draft order.

The standings for non-playoff teams goes like this:

The higher number of points earned by the Club. (b)

The greater number of games won by the Club. (c)

The higher number of points earned in games against each other among two (2) or more Clubs having equal standing under priority (b) and (c) **

The greater differential between goals scored for and against by Clubs having equal standing under priority (d).

If the season were to end today with the Kings and TB tied in points, the Lightning would be #30 and the Kings #29 due to the Kings having more wins. Then you factor in the lottery which could give the #1 pick to any of the teams from 26th to 30th place. Here are the odds of those teams actually ending up with the #1:

30
48.20%

29
18.80%

28
14.20%

27
10.70%

26
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this question was raised in the GDT, but what if tampa gets two more OT losses and we both have equal goal differential (equal wins, equal goal differential)?

as far as I can tell the NHL hasn't thought of that situation
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Tampa Bay just beat Carolina! Yes!

2 pts ahead, with 4 games to play, as opposed to 3 games left for us.
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this question was raised in the GDT, but what if tampa gets two more OT losses and we both have equal goal differential (equal wins, equal goal differential)?

as far as I can tell the NHL hasn't thought of that situation
That is a good question. Now that TB has won again, they are up by two points, tied in wins with LA and the goal differential is -32 (tb) to -33 (la) with 4 and 3 games remaining respectively. Close enough that the possibility of all tiebreakers being even is certainly reasonable.

Everywhere I have looked the tiebreaker ends at goal differential. The NFL has a lot more tiebreakers, different for different scenarios but here's one:

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

I can't imagine going practically wire to wire in last place and losing the #1 on a coin toss. That would be so Kings-like.
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I can't imagine going practically wire to wire in last place and losing the #1 on a coin toss. That would be so Kings-like.
And the last place team is...

*flips*

....long pause...

The Los Angeles Kings!

(A few weeks later...)

And the winner of the lottery is...

*shuffles*

...the 29th place team! Tampa Bay!
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if it came down to strength of schedule, the Kings would be proper f***ed!
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haha thx guys, I saw that post from the top, that's some good stuff!
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