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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. The Stars and Wings are in the Western Conference finals.
The Kings are still whining about losing money (and are now starting to whine about the cap going up)
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If you look at a team like the Red Wings. They haven't really gone out there a spend huge bucks on free agents. Instead, there core of important players have come up through the draft and their own system:
Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Osgood, Franzen, Draper, Holmstrom, Kronwall have all been drafted by the team.
Hopefully, this is the same route the Kings seem to be taking and all Kings fans hope it works in the same way it has for Detroit.
The CBA as a whole was built to protect the owners from themselves. When it comes down to it, the owners that want to win will figure out a way of doing it while making money. The owners that want to make money will continue to whine and bitch because they just do not understand that winning begets profits.
So, what has changed? Players can become UFA's sooner and boost market price driving up the need to raise a cap that was put in place to save the owners from themselves in the first place...so nothing has changed.
I always said and always will, the teams that have the smart management that have always won will always continue to win, cap or no cap.
I don't know why people (including Gary Bettman) thought by some miracle a salary cap was going to make teams like Detroit, Philly, Dallas etc.. to become to bottom feeders and perennial losers like Edmonton, etc.. become instant contenders. One team that you can make an expeption for is the Penguins, but then again if you have a top 5 pick 5 years in a row with players like Crosby, Malkin, Stall, Whitney and Fleury, you are gooing to win eventually, regardless of the financial structure of the league.
This is the way a good business model is an I for one thing it is working the right way, just because teams with money had an unfair advantage before the cap it doesn't mean team's with no money should have an unfair advantage after the cap.
But the Kings are still losing money... and they've gotten worse... and the last place Flyers just did what the Kings haven't done since 1993.... and they didn't have to rely on VanRymsdyk either... and they have better players in their system... and Phoenix and Edmonton are better... and we still don't have a goaltender...
The NHL business model is flawed when it's number one revenue source is gate receipts. 14 of 30 teams miss the playoffs every year and just about the same number lose money every year. They need a new plan. Start with more ads on the ice and on the jersey's but the problem w/ that plan is they need eyes to see the ads in order to convince sponsors to buy them.
But the Kings are still losing money... and they've gotten worse... and the last place Flyers just did what the Kings haven't done since 1993.... and they didn't have to rely on VanRymsdyk either... and they have better players in their system... and Phoenix and Edmonton are better... and we still don't have a goaltender...
They are losing money because bandwagon fans are flocking (no pun intended) to the Ducks because they are the more successful franchise at the current moment and the Kings are doing so poorly. It will rebound and the Kings are not too worried about it. We still have a good fan base and a bright future.
They are just frustrated with the fact that we are in one of the biggest markets in the country and we are not attracting the same power/revenue that the other big market teams are getting. They are not really complaining about the cap going up as much as they are player salaries going up. We have permission from AEG to spend to the cap limit.
The main reason we are spending so little now is because we have all of our core stars coming up for contract extensions. If you want to keep Sully, Kopitar, Johnson, and have room to grow with all our prospects you will hope our cap use stays away from the max. It reminds me of the Penguins, they were very low near the to cap floor when they got Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal, Whitney etc... They had to stay that way because they knew that within a couple years they will be spending nearly all of it keeping their highly talented young core. The Kings are going through the same phase.
__________________ "But it wasn’t like last year, where it was just kinda … we had trouble stopping beach balls at times." -Dean Lombardi
As I understand the Revenue Sharing system the NHL set up with the new CBA, the ten richest clubs contribute to a fund (half of all Stanley Cup Playoffs revenue is also included in the fund), which is then distributed to the bottom fifteen clubs, revenue-wise, with adjustments made for Small Market clubs (that gets you more) and poor business practices (that gets you less). Contributions are determined based on hockey-related operational revenue. "Small Market" is determined by media market analysis of the region each club operates in (markets with "TV Households" of 2.5 Million or fewer are considered Small Market). This is to encourage franchise owners in the big markets to build their businesses and prevent them from free-loading off successful franchises.
The Los Angeles Kings, of course, are ineligible to receive much in revenue sharing funds because the LA media market is Number 2 in the nation. If the club really is losing money, then it would make sense to move it to a smaller media market -- one small enough to qualify the club for substantial league revenue-sharing funds. A market with an arena the parent corporation already owns would be good, but only if that market is Small Enough (Number 31 fits those requirements).
The main reason we are spending so little now is because we have all of our core stars coming up for contract extensions. If you want to keep Sully, Kopitar, Johnson, and have room to grow with all our prospects you will hope our cap use stays away from the max. It reminds me of the Penguins, they were very low near the to cap floor when they got Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Staal, Whitney etc... They had to stay that way because they knew that within a couple years they will be spending nearly all of it keeping their highly talented young core. The Kings are going through the same phase.
Sorry, but Sully, Kopitar and Johnson aren't Crosby and company, and likely never will be.