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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Let’s think about this this rationally. Perfect example coming up...
The Quebec Nordiques sucked for a long time. Yet they had a player they believed in and continued to
Let’s think about this this rationally. Perfect example coming up...
The Quebec Nordiques sucked for a long time. Yet they had a player they believed in and continued to struggle through drafts and trade deadline specials. They couldn’t even make the play-offs. It took that team many years to become a futile franchise in the NHL. The biggest movement was when they moved to Colorado.
Prior to the move the team was on the verge of being great, but they could not get over the hump. The Coloradniques turned into a formidable team virtually over night. That was based solely on the fact that they sucked ass for damn near a decade and they made good trades and picked up some stellar draft picks.
They took the time to rebuild correctly and wound up winning two Stanley Cups due to their fortitude.
I think we should all look at that Quebec situation and try to gather strength from it. Were the Quebec fans happy when their team sucked? Are we happy watching the Kings suck?
My general point is this; the Kings have a real good shot at being a cup contender in the near future. Obviously not this season and probably not next season either. But I feel that they are on their way to being a legitimate team in the near future if ownership does the right thing.
Seriously, the Kings can’t ditch Modry, Stuart and Preissing. Along with Armstrong, Calder and Nagy. It leaves the team too short handed. There may be plenty of guys in Manchester ready to step in, but throwing them in the mix and expecting the team to be better is a pipe dream. How can a ****-load of rookies flounder around aimlessly as we all expect a play-off team to emerge? No dice.
How could it be possible to have half your defense as rookies and your third and fourth lines in the same boat? It’s not going to work by any means. That is where the rebuild process comes in. Look at Ottawa or San Jose or Anaheim. It seems to me that those franchises realized that they had to get worse before they got better. We all know where those teams are now.
So compare it. Ottawa sucked and now they are good. Go back further and look at the Devils. They used to suck and then they got real good. And they continue to be formidable. Anaheim sucked and they pulled off the right deal. San Jose...same deal.
The Kings are on that same road. Strength through past weakness. Build from within and utilize assets.
Not everyone can be traded for “a pick” and as true fans we should not expect this team to turn into a Stanley Cup contender over night. It brings back my earlier point. It seems to me that it takes years of suffering to become a real contender. Whether you like it or not, this really is the first time the Kings have gone into rebuilding mode.
Detroit sucked for years. Quebec sucked for years. Anaheim wasn’t good and neither was Chicago. All sucked for different reasons. Take a look at what happened to those teams...
But my point is this; if we (Kings Fans) are patient and deal with the short comings of our beloved team in the near future and handle situations in the correct manner, this team could be a true contender.
I don’t know anything. I’m just a dumb ass. The “arm chair” quarter back. My attempted thoughts will be lost in the realm of “do-or-die” mentality regardless. Pleas pardon my waste of bandwidth.
You mention Brown, I mention Getzlaf (even Corey Perry has better numbers than Brown)
You mention Fro-Loaf and Cammy, I mention Steckle and Karlsson
You mention Harrold (why I don't know), I mention I can't seem to find where he was drafted by the Kings.
How about 2004, where almost everyone (yes, Parse included) looks like a was (maybe Taylor plays, maybe not)
Then there's Anshakov and Pushkarev...
ugh
I think you missed the "sure there were busts, but every team has busts" part. Hell, just look at Detroit's inability to draft a defenseman. They still seem to manage...
Oh crap, I forgot it's YOU, and you don't give a **** about facts or reality, only stirring the pot...
I bet the Nordiques fans weren't too happy about losing all of those years. I bet they were upset when they moved to Colorado. It's almost a sure fire thing that the Nordiques fans were infuriated that the Avalanche won the cup the very next year.
Seriously those teams did suck for many years but a GM who come in with a purpose and builds from the inside out shouldn't have to be rebuiloding for 10 years. In the new NHL that can take place from anywhere between 3 and 5 years with UFA age limit dropping. I think it is more important to develop the teams draft picks and other prospects from the ground up to keep the organization strong.
You mention Brown, I mention Getzlaf (even Corey Perry has better numbers than Brown)
You mention Fro-Loaf and Cammy, I mention Steckle and Karlsson
You mention Harrold (why I don't know), I mention I can't seem to find where he was drafted by the Kings.
How about 2004, where almost everyone (yes, Parse included) looks like a was (maybe Taylor plays, maybe not)
Then there's Anshakov and Pushkarev...
ugh
No scout bats 1.000 when it comes to the draft. I tend to blame the Kings' development program for our past failures. That program only got turned around when AEG took over and is finally starting to bear some fruit only now, because that kind of work takes time. Undrafted free agents like Moulson and Purcell are perfect examples.
No doubt to that Lombardi has improved the development program by adding to the reserve list.
Originally posted by CBGB How come you didn't mention Boyle?
You mention Kopitar, I mention Roussin.
You mention Brown, I mention Getzlaf (even Corey Perry has better numbers than Brown)
You mention Fro-Loaf and Cammy, I mention Steckle and Karlsson
You mention Harrold (why I don't know), I mention I can't seem to find where he was drafted by the Kings.
How about 2004, where almost everyone (yes, Parse included) looks like a was (maybe Taylor plays, maybe not)
Then there's Anshakov and Pushkarev...
ugh
I have no problems with picking Brown. He's become a fine player. Perry, I agree with.
I pointed this out a couple of times, the 2001 draft was fairly weak. Between Karlsson & Steckel, there is no other player that has made a huge impact other than Gleason. So the kings got their 1st round pick when they traded for him.
Picking Pushkarev over Bergeron was absolutely stupid.
Also, picking Bednar over Pominville was another blounder.
Actually, the Kings have only sucked for 2 years. Before then they were either a playoff team or a decent team destroyed by injuries to top players.
After this season is over, I'd prefer trying the Philadelphia approach instead of sucking for a few more years. It seems to be working for them. Of course, with their approach, you actually have to make good decisions instead of making excuses and rationalizations.
The voice of reason = Gimp_Stick is a horse's arse 
CBGB
