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Old March 15th, 2008, 02:54 PM   #41
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From the edmonton sun about the emery and the senators
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While the Senators goaltender has two years left on his contract at a total of $6.75 million, the Sun has confirmed through various sources the club has the option of buying Emery out at only one-third of his deal because of his age.

There is a misconception in the public that players receive two-thirds of their contract if they are bought out before the end of the deal. According to Section 13 of the Standard Players Contract, that's only true if a player is 26-or-over.

Under the terms of the new CBA signed in August, 2005, Emery, who is 25 and doesn't turn 26 until September, would only be eligible to receive $2,227,500 in a buyout because he's under 26-years-old. The Senators would be allowed to spread the cap hit over double the remaining term of the deal which means it would cost the club $556,875 per-season for four years.
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Good find, ksc218. I didn't even know about the age cutoff so it was certainly enlightening.

Although can fans really be faulted for not knowing about it? Especially when you consider that the mention about the 1/3 vs. 2/3 blurb isn't even in the section where they discuss the process of a contract buyout. You have to scroll all the way down to (page 251) the 1st item on the 4th section of the 13th point under the Standard Player Contract exhibit...
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hey folks. i made you a spreadsheet. have fun!

hold on, i can't upload an .xls file directly, so let me put it online somewhere.

try this directory

there's only one file, called Armchair.xls

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That's a good chart Charles. To me, it just highlights how important it is to grow through the draft and have low-priced young talent.
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That's a good chart Charles. To me, it just highlights how important it is to grow through the draft and have low-priced young talent.
Thanks. I tried to baseline it with one elite player at each of C1, D1, and G1, and then work from there. For every next-young-star playing on the top 2 lines or top 2 D pairings but making well less than his allocation, you can afford a veteran character guy that may be making bigger money than his role suggests--perfect "bridge" in the DL parlance. But yeah, in general, you're not going to be able to get through a season without some 2-way/ELC guys really making names for themselves and keeping the costs down--and in a couple years' time when they're due their real paydays, you gotta restore that high-value slot with another prospect, ideally replacing one of the previous bridges.
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hold on, i can't upload an .xls file directly, so let me put it online somewhere.

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there's only one file, called Armchair.xls

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i apparently put the wrong cap numbers into that file, so, if you're one of the 2 people that has downloaded it, and you haven't already changed that, my apologies
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======= UPDATE FOR '08-09 SEASON {Work in Progress} =======

NOTE: You can review (08-09 Players in Kings System.doc) attachment at the bottom of this post, until I've finished formating and correcting this new update, also this post will be best viewed using the HOME {Dark backgrounds} style skins.


FULL List of PLAYERS in the SYSTEM * ...
*{Either Played for Kings / Monarchs this year, a Draftee / Signed Prospect, or was listed on 'Official Team' sites}
50 MAX to signed SPC contracts and 90 players/prospects TOTAL overall in your organization.
Sorted by {REMAINING CONTRACT LENGTH} then AGE, or includes dates Prospects need to be signed by.

FORWARDS in the pipeline for KINGS & Manchester :
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* Signed for next year
1.* DUSTIN BROWN #23 - {6 yr} @ $3,175,000 - (LW/RW) 6'0" / 200# / R / Nov 4, 1984 / Ithaca, NY, USA
2.* MICHAL HANDZUS #26 - {3 yr w/ NMC} @ $4,000,000 - (C/LW) 6'5" / 217# / L / Mar 11, 1977 / Banska Bystrica, SVK
3.* JOHN ZEILER #73 - {3 yr} @ $543,750 - (RW) 6'0" / 196# / R / Nov 21, 1982 / Jefferson Hills, PA, USA
4.* BUD HOLLOWAY #50 - {3 yr ELC} @ $###,### - (C) 6'0" / 190# / R / Mar 1, 1988 / Wapella, SK, CAN
5.** WAYNE SIMMONDS #57 - {3 yr ELC} @ $850,000 - (RW) 6'1" / 162# / R / Aug 26, 1988 / Scarborough, ON CAN
6.** OSCAR MOLLER #51 - {3 yr ELC} @ $###,### - (C) 5'11" / 179# / R / Jan 22, 1989 / Stockholm, Sweden
7.* RAITIS IVANANS #41 - {2 yr} @ $600,000 - (LW) 6'3" / 263# / L / Jan 1, 1979 / Riga, LVA
8.* ALEXANDER FROLOV #24 - {2 yr} @ $2,900,000 - (LW) 6'2" / 210# / R / Jun 19, 1982 / Moscow, RUS
9.* TREVOR LEWIS #61 - {2 yr ELC} @ $855,000 - (C) 6'1" / 192# / R / Jan 8, 1987 / Salt Lake City, UT, USA
10.* MARC-ANDRE CLICHE #67 - {2 yr ELC} @ $850,000 - (RW) 6'0" / 175# / R / Mar 23, 1987 / Rouyn-Noranda, QC, CAN
11.* DEREK ARMSTRONG #7 - {1 yr} @ $1,500,000 - (C) 6'0" / 190# / R / Apr 23, 1973 / Ottawa, ON, CAN
12.* KYLE CALDER #19 - {1 yr} @ $2,700,000 - (LW/RW) 5'11" / 180# / L / Jan 5, 1979 / Mannville, Alta., CAN
13.* MATT ELLIS #8 - {1 yr} @ $475,000 - (RW) 6'0" / 207# / R / Aug 31, 1981 / Welland, ON, CAN
14.* MICHAEL CAMMALLERI #13 - {1 yr} @ $3,350,000 - (RW) 5'9" / 185# / L / Jun 8, 1982 / Richmond Hill, ON, CAN
15.* KEVIN WESTGARTH #33 - {1 yr ELC} @ $850,000 - (RW) 6'5" / 245# / R / Feb 7, 1984 / Amherstburg, ON, CAN
16.* BRADY MURRAY #15 - {1 yr ELC} @ $942,400 - (C) 5'9" / 165# / L / Aug 17, 1984 / Brandon, MB, CAN
17.* SCOTT PARSE #63 - {1 yr ELC} @ $750,000 - (LW/C) 6'1" / 185# / R / Sep 5, 1984 / Kalamazoo, MI, USA
18.* BRIAN BOYLE #22 - {1 yr ELC} @ $835,000 - (C) 6'7" / 250# / L / Dec 18, 1984 / Dorchester, MA, USA
19.* VLADIMIR DRAVECKY #60 - {1 yr ELC} @ $497,500 - (RW) 5'10" / 185# / L / June 3, 1985 / Kosice, SVK
20.* TEDDY PURCELL #54 - {1 yr ELC} @ $1,350,000 - (RW/C) 6'2" / 175# / R / Sep 8, 1985 / St. John's, NL, CAN
21.* NED LUKACEVIC #59 - {1 yr ELC} @ $500,000 - (LW) 6'0" / 185# / L / Feb 11, 1986 / Podogorcia, YUG
22.* LAURI TUKONEN #34 - {1 yr ELC} @ $885,780 - (RW) 6'2" / 198# / R / Sep 1, 1986 / Hyvinkaa, FIN
23.* ANZE KOPITAR #11 - {1 yr ELC} @ $955,867 - (C) 6'4" / 220# / L / Aug 24, 1987 / Jesenice, SVN
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Minimum Qualifying Offers have to be tendered to the following RFA's :
##. MATT MOULSON #28 - {RFA} @ $477,500 - (LW) 6'1" / 210# / L / Nov 1, 1983 / North York, ON, CAN
##. GABE GAUTHIER #52 - {RFA} @ $650,000 - (C/LW) 5'9" / 205# / L / Jan 20, 1984 / Buena Park, CA, USA
##. PETR KANKO #48 - {RFA} @ $495,000 - (RW) 5'10" / 195# / L / Feb 7, 1984 / Pribram, CZE
##. DANY ROUSSIN #55 - {RFA} @ $650,000 - (LW) 6'2" / 190# / L / Jan 9, 1985 / Quebec City, QC, CAN
##. PATRICK O'SULLIVAN #12 - {RFA} @ $850,000 - (C/LW) 6'0" / 190# / L / Feb 1, 1985 / Winston Salem, NC, USA
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##. SCOTT THORNTON #27 - {UFA} @ $1,500,000 - (LW) 6'3" / 220# / L / Jan 9, 1971 / London, ON, CAN
##. BRIAN WILLSIE #21 - {UFA} @ $850,000 - (RW) 6'1" / 202# / R / Mar 16, 1978 / London, ON, CAN
##. LADISLAV NAGY #47 - {UFA} @ $3,750,000 - (LW) 5'11" / 192# / L / Jun 1, 1979 / Saca, SVK
##. JEFF GIULIANO #29 - {UFA} @ $475,000 - (LW) 5'9" / 205# / L / Jun 20, 1979 / Nashua, NH, USA
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Unsigned Prospects :
51. Constantin Braun #60 - {by 6/15/'08} - (LW) 6'3" / 198# / L / Mar 11, 1988 / Lampertheim, DEU
52. Valtteri Tenkanen #?? - {by 6/15/'08} - (F) 5'11" / 183# / Mar 27, 1985 / Jamsa, FIN
53. Mike 'John' Curry #?? - { by 8/15/'08} - (RW) 6'4" / 190# / R / Sep 20, 1984 / Fort Benning, GA, USA
54. Matt Fillier #77 - {by 6/1/'09} - (C/LW) 6'0" / 180# / L / Oct 5, 1988 / New Glasgow, NS CAN
55. Bryan Cameron #76 - {by 6/1/'09} - (C/RW) 5'10" / 175# / R / Feb 25, 1989 / Brampton, ON CAN
56. Dwight King #74 - {by 6/1/'09} - (C/LW) 6'2" / 218# / L / July 5, 1989 / Meadowlake, SK CAN
57. DAVID MECKLER #58 - {by 6/1/'10 *} - (RW/C) 6'0" / 184# / R / Jul 9, 1987 / Highland Park, IL, USA
58. Joshua Turnbull #76 - {by 8/15/'11} - (C) 5'10" / 172# / R / July 12, 1988 / Hayward, WI USA
* LINK - David Mekler signs 1 yr Deal w/ Manchester Monarchs, AHL

* 23 Forwards SIGNED for next year + 5 RFA’s + 4 UFA’s
* Simmonds fell under -- Age 18 and age 19 Players who when returned to CHL Juniors, and who have not played 10 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player Limit, and not count off a year of his ELC.

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DEFENSEMEN in the pipeline for KINGS & Manchester :
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* Signed for next year
22.* LUBOMIR VISNOVSKY #17 - {5 yr w/ NMC} @ $5,600,000 - (D) 5'10" / 188# / L / Aug 11, 1976 / Topolcany, SVK
23.* TOM PREISSING #42 - {3 yr} @ $2,750,000 - (D) 6'0" / 205# / R / Dec 3, 1978 / Arlington Heights, IL, USA
24.* ALEC MARTINEZ #?? - {3 yr ELC} @ $###,### - (D) 6'0" / 188# / L / July 26, 1987 / Rochester Hills, MI USA
25.** THOMAS HICKEY #37 - {3 yr ELC} @ $1,375,000 - (D) 5'11" / 182# / L / Feb 8, 1989 / Calgary, AB, CAN
26.* DAVIS DREWISKE #xx - {2 yr ELC} @ $###,### - (D) 6'1" / 215# / L / Nov 22, 1984 / Hudson, WI, USA
27.* PATRIK HERSLEY #64 - {2 yr ELC} @ $535,000 - (D) 6'3" / 205# / R / Jun 23, 1986 / Malmo, SWE
28.* JACK JOHNSON #3 - {1 yr ELC} @ $2,150,000 - (D) 6'1" / 201# / L / Jan 13, 1987 / Indianapolis, IN, USA
29.* DREW BAGNALL #78 - {1 yr ELC} @ $750,000 - (D) 6'3" / 220# / L / Oct 26, 1983 / Oakbank, MB, CAN
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Minimum Qualifying Offers have to be tendered to the following RFA's :
##. PETER HARROLD #5 - {RFA} @ $500,000 - (D) 5'11" / 195# / R / Jun 8, 1983 / Kirtland Hills, OH, USA
##. JOE PISKULA #22 - {RFA} @ $1,125,000 - (D) 6'3" / 214# / L / Jul 5, 1984 / Antigo, WI, USA
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##. ROB BLAKE #4 - {UFA w/ NTC} @ $6,000,000 - (D) 6'4" / 225# / R / Dec 10, 1969 / Simcoe, ON, CAN
##. JON KLEMM #25 - {UFA} @ $500,000 - (D) 6'2" / 205# / R / Jan 8, 1970 / Cranbrook, B.C., CAN
##. BRENDAN BUCKLEY #xx - {UFA} @ $462,500 - (D) 6'2" / 205# / R / Feb 26, 1977 / Boston, MA, USA
##. KEVIN DALLMAN #38 - {UFA} @ $477,500 - (D) 5'11" / 195# / L / Feb 26, 1981 / Niagara Falls, ON, CAN
##. RICHARD PETIOT #2 - {UFA-VI} @ $495,000 - (D) 6'3" / 200# / L / Aug 20, 1982 / Daysland, AB, CAN
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Brad Stuart - {Traded to Red Wings for 2nd Rd pick in 2008 + 4th Rd pick in 2009}
Jaroslav Modry - {Traded to Flyers for 3rd Rd pick in 2008}
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Unsigned Prospects :
62. Johan Fransson #?? - {by 6/15/'08} - (D) 6'1" / 183# / L / Feb 18, 1985 / Kalix, SWE
63. Niclas Andersen #?? - {by 6/15/'08} - (D) 6'1" / 207# / L / Apr 28, 1988 / Grums, SWE
64. Tomas Zizka #?? - {by July 1, 2008} - (D) 6'1" / 198# / R / Oct 10, 1979 / Sternberk, CZE
65. Paul Baier #?? - {by 8/15/'08} - (D) 6'3" / 212# / R / Feb 2, 1985 / Summit, NJ, USA
66. Josh Kidd #53 - {by 6/1/'09} - (D) 6'4" / 220# / R / Nov 16, 1988 / Sundridge, ON CAN
67. Josh Meyers #?? - {by 8/15/'09} - (D) 6'2" / 180# / R / Dec 7, 1985 / Alexandria, MN, USA
68. Martin Nolet #?? - {by 8/15/'10} - (D) 6'3" / 209# / R / Oct 2, 1986 / Quebec City, QC, CAN
Link explaining the enigma of Zizka's status.

* 8 Defensemen SIGNED for next year + 2 RFA’s + 5 UFA’s
* Hickey fell under -- Age 18 and age 19 Players who when returned to CHL Juniors, and who have not played 10 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player Limit, and not count off a year of his ELC.

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GOALIES in the pipeline for KINGS & Manchester :
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* Signed for next year
30.* JEFF ZATKOFF #xx - {3 yr ELC} @ $###,### - (G) 6'1" / 150# / L / Jun 9, 1987 / Detroit, MI, USA
31.** JONATHAN BERNIER #45 - {3 yr ELC} @ $871,667 - (G) 6'0" / 177# / L / Aug 7, 1988 / Laval, QC, CAN
32.* JONATHAN QUICK #32 - {2 yr ELC} @ $770,000 - (G) 6'0" / 180# / L / Jan 21, 1986 / Milford, CT, USA
33.* DAN CLOUTIER #39 - {1 yr} @ $3,100,000 - (G) 6'1" / 195# / L / Apr 22, 1976 / Mont-Laurier, QC, CAN
34.* JASON LABARBERA #35 - {1 yr} @ $825,000 - (G) 6'3" / 230# / L / Jan 18, 1980 / Burnaby, BC, CAN
35.* DANIEL TAYLOR #46 - {1 yr ELC} @ $508,333 - (G) 6'0" / 179# / L / Apr 28, 1986 / Plymouth, GBR
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Minimum Qualifying Offers have to be tendered to the following RFA's :
##. ERIK ERSBERG #31 - {RFA} @ $750,000 - (G) 5'11" / 182# / L / Mar 8, 1982 / Sala, SWE
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Jean-Sebastien Aubin - {Traded to Ducks for 7th Rd pick in 2008}
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Unsigned Prospects :
70. Linden Rowat #75 - {signed by 6/1/'09} - (G) 6'1" / 177# / L / June 27, 1989 / Cochrane, AB CAN

* 6 Goalies SIGNED for next year + 1 RFA
* Bernier fell under -- Age 18 and age 19 Players who when returned to CHL Juniors, and who have not played 10 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player Limit, and not count off a year of his ELC.
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Players remaining in AHL / ECHL {for M. Monarchs & R. Royals} :
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P.J. ATHERTON #?? - {AHL Manchester Contract*} - (D) 24 yr / 6'2" / 205 lb / Minnesota, USA
PAUL CROSTY #80 - {AHL Manchester Contract*} - (F/D) 24 yr / 6'2" / 220 / 1982 / CAN
JEFF LIKENS #79 - {AHL Manchester Contract*} - (D) 5'11" / 178 / 1985
* LINK monarchshockey.com - {Ryan, Milam, Atherton}
* LINK monarchshockey.com - {Crosty}
* LINK Union Leader - Monarchs Insider: Off-season starts now for Monarchs - {Jeff Likens}

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The following players were not tendered qualifying offers, therefore making them UFA's :
Alyn McCauley = {Bought Out* = 3 yrs remaining @ $666,667}
* LINK to Rich Hammond Blog - McCauley Buy Out
Jan Marek = {Lost his rights on 6/15/'07, UFA}
Ryan McGinnis = {Lost his rights on 6/1/'07, UFA /Re-enters 2008 draft ?}
Martin Guerin = {Lost his rights on 8/15/'07, UFA}
Mike Sullivan = {Lost his rights on 8/15/'07, UFA}
Joe Ryan = {Lost his rights on 6/1/'08, UFA /Re-enters 2008/9 draft ?}

The following UFA / RFA players have signed with other teams and are no longer w/ Kings :
MATT RYAN {Signed w/ Augsburg Panthers, German Team*} - (C) 5'11" / 185# / R / Nov 12, 1983 / Sharon, ON, CAN
* http://www.aev-panther.de/index/06_07/pa_nachrichtenliste.html?naid=487
TROY MILAM = {Signed w/ Ilves Tampere, Finish Team}* - (D) 27 yr / 6' / 185 lb / Michigan, USA
* http://www.ilves.com/uutinen280508.php
* LINK to Cory Brolund's FA List Signings
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PLUS 15 = 2008 Draft Picks, additional space needed within the 90 spots, for next year

2008 DRAFT PICKS (15)
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73. 1st Rd: LA = 2nd Overall
74. 1st Rd: From Dallas = 28th Overall (Norstrom trade)
75. 2nd Rd: LA = 32nd Overall
76. 2nd Rd: From Calgary = 47th Overall (Conroy trade)
77. 2nd Rd: From Detroit = 60th Overall (Stuart trade)
78. 3rd Rd: LA = 62nd Overall
79. 3rd Rd: From Philadelphia = 76th Overall (Modry trade)
80. 3rd Rd: From New York Rangers = 82nd Overall (Avery trade, because Marek didn't come to NA, sign w/ Kings)
--. 4th Rd: *LA = 92nd Overall - traded away to WSH (traded to WSH for a 2007 4th round pick {Alec Martinez})
81. 4th Rd: From Vancouver = 103rd Overall (Sopel trade)
82. 4th Rd: Dallas = 113th Overall, From Tampa Bay (Munce trade)
83. 5th Rd: LA = 122nd Overall (To WAS if Kings re-signed Heward, but they didn't)
84. 6th Rd: LA = 152nd Overall
85. 6th Rd: From Dallas = ###nd Overall (Norstrom trade ? per LAKings.com)
86. 7th Rd: LA = 182nd Overall
87. 7th Rd: From Anaheim = 206th Overall (Aubin trade)

2009 DRAFT PICKS (8)
===================
1st Rd: LA
2nd Rd: LA
3rd Rd: *LA - traded to VAN (Cloutier trade)
4th Rd: LA
4th Rd: From Detroit (Stuart trade)
5th Rd: LA
5th Rd: From St. Louis (T.J. Fast trade)
6th Rd: LA
7th Rd: LA

2010 DRAFT PICKS (7)
===================
1st Rd: LA
2nd Rd: LA
3rd Rd: LA
4th Rd: LA
5th Rd: LA
6th Rd: LA
7th Rd: LA

* Good Link for Complete Draft Pick information on ALL teams = Professional Hockey Transactions Archive

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Note … Kings have used 34 of their 50 Max SPC's, have 8 RFA's needing MQO’s or better offers, and 9 UFA's off the roster.
PLUS w/ Prospects, have 81 of their 90 Max Players in the System.
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OK, this will be another work-in-progress post that we should work on as the team and season progress, that I'm adding to this sticky so we don't lose it ...

This is based around Dean Lombardi's principles and the plan he seems to have in place to make the Kings a contender, regarding his Prospect "Reserve List" of Age Groups, "CORE" players already on the team he wants to retain, and his "Fillers, Bridges & Builders" comment about the Free Agent market.

Builders = 'guy who's here when young players come into lineup and still help be a Contender'
Bridges = 'guy that helps the young players that you've got become better players'
Fillers = 'one-year deal warm body types'
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PLAYERS in the System pipeline for KINGS & MONARCHS :
FORWARDS / DEFENSEMEN / GOALIES ... 'CORE' Player?
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* Signed for next year * AHL Manchester Monarchs contract next year
Code:
18-21 yr old's
==================
Dwight King 18			*THOMAS HICKEY 19		Linden Rowat 18	.
Oscar Moller 19		*Josh Kidd 19			*JONATHAN BERNIER 19
*WAYNE SIMMONDS 19		Niclas Andersen 19		*JEFF ZATKOFF 20
Bryan Cameron 19		Alec Martinez 20		*DANIEL TAYLOR 21
Joshua Turnbull 19		Joe Ryan 20		
Matt Fillier 19		T.J. Fast 20		
Bud Holloway 20		Martin Nolet 21
Constantin Braun 20		*PATRIK HERSLEY 21
*ANZE KOPITAR 20		*JACK JOHNSON 21				
*David Meckler 20
*TREVOR LEWIS 21					
*MARC-ANDRE CLICHE 21		
*LAURI TUKONEN 21		

22-25 yr old's
==================
*NED LUKACEVIC 22		Josh Meyers 22			*JONATHAN QUICK 22
*VLADIMIR DRAVECKY 22		*JEFF LIKENS 22			
*TEDDY PURCELL 22		JOE PISKULA 23	
*BRADY MURRAY 23		Paul Baier 23
*SCOTT PARSE 23		Johan Fransson 23	
DANY ROUSSIN 23		*DAVIS DREWISKE 23
Valtteri Tenkanen 23		PETER HARROLD 24	
Mike Curry 23			*DREW BAGNALL 24
*BRIAN BOYLE 23		*P.J. ATHERTON 24
PATRICK O'SULLIVAN 23		RICHARD PETIOT 25
*DUSTIN BROWN 23		*PAUL CROSTY 25
*KEVIN WESTGARTH 24		
MATT MOULSON 24		
GABE GAUTHIER 24
PETR KANKO 24
*JOHN ZEILER 25
*MICHAEL CAMMALLERI 25
*ALEXANDER FROLOV 25

26-29 yr old's
===================
*MATT ELLIS 26			KEVIN DALLMAN 27		ERIK ERSBERG 26
JEFF GIULIANO 28		*TROY MILAM 27			*JASON LABARBERA 28
LADISLAV NAGY 28		*TOM PREISSING 29	
*RAITIS IVANANS 29
*KYLE CALDER 29			

30-33 yr old's
===================
BRIAN WILLSIE 30		BRENDAN BUCKLEY 31		*DAN CLOUTIER 31
*MICHAL HANDZUS 31		*LUBOMIR VISNOVSKY 31	
				
34 yr old + Over
=======================
*DEREK ARMSTRONG 34		ROB BLAKE 38
SCOTT THORNTON 37		JON KLEMM 38			
.
* ## Forwards SIGNED for next year
* ## Defensemen SIGNED for next year
* ## Goalies SIGNED for next year
+ ## RFA Players were tendered their MQO's

Signed for next year by Age Brackets
18-21 yr = ## Forwards / # Defensemen / # Goalies
22-25 yr = ## Forwards / # Defensemen / # Goalies
26-29 yr = ## Forwards / # Defensemen / # Goalies
30-33 yr = ## Forwards / # Defensemen / # Goalies
34+over yr = # Forwards / # Defensemen / # Goalies

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Organizational {Prospect} Depth Chart
w/ - Hockeysfuture #/letter Rating if applicable
PLAYER LEGEND - ( DEFINES LEAGUE PLAYING IN )
Playing in NHL w/ KINGS
Playing in N.A. Pro (AHL,ECHL,etc..)
Playing in CHL (OHL,QMJHL,WHL)
Playing in NCAA
Playing in Europe
Playing in Junior 'A' (USHL,BCHL,AJHL,etc..)

Code:
--------LW--------		--------C--------		--------RW--------
Alexander Frolov Michal Handzus Michael Cammalleri	.
Ladislav Nagy 			Derek Armstrong Kyle Calder
Scott Thornton			Jeff Giuuliano 		Brian Willsie
Raitis Ivanans Anze Kopitar 8.0A 		Lauri Tukonen 7.0C
Dustin Brown 8.0B		Brian Boyle 7.0C		Oscar Moller 7.0C
Patrick O'Sullivan 8.0C	Trevor Lewis 7.5C		Marc-Andre Cliche 6.5 C
Scott Parse 6.5B		David Meckler 6.5C		Teddy Purcell 6.5C 
Matt Moulson 7.0C		John Zeiler 5.0A		Wayne Simmonds 7.0D 
Dwight King 6.5D		Brady Murray 6.0C		Petr Kanko 6.0C
Constantin Braun 6.0C		Bryan Cameron 6.0C		Vladimir Dravecky 6.0D
Dany Roussin 7.0F		Bud Holloway 6.0C		Mike 'John' Curry 5.0F
Ned Lukacevic 5.0D		Joshua Turnbull 6.0C
				Gabe Gauthier 5.5C 		
				Kevin Westgarth 5.0C		
				Matt Fillier 5.0D 
				Valtteri Tenkanen 5.0F 


--------D--------		--------G--------	
Lubomir Visnovsky Dan Cloutier
Rob Blake			Jason LaBarbera	
Tom Preissing Erik Ersberg
Jon Klemm			Jonathan Bernier 8.0B
Kevin Dallman  		Jeff Zatkoff 7.0B
Jack Johnson 8.5B		Jonathan Quick 7.0C
Brendan Buckley Linden Rowat 6.0D 
Thomas Hickey 8.0C		Daniel Taylor 5.0D 	
Richard Petiot 7.0B		
Peter Harrold 7.0C		
Drew Bagnall 6.5C
Patrik Hersley 6.5C
Joe Piskula 5.5B 
Joe Ryan 7.0D	
Johan Fransson 7.0D				
Josh Meyers 6.0C		
Niclas Andersen 6.0C
T.J. Fast 6.0C				
Alec Martinez 6.5D
Paul Baier 6.5D
Josh Kidd 6.0D 
Martin Nolet 5.0C 		

{Work in progress ... looking for help with updates, thanks}
2008-2009 Los Angeles Kings CAP #'s
==( 23 Player Roster MAX )==================================

SIGNED RETURNING PLAYERS CERTAIN TO MAKE TEAM (12)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Lubomir Visnovsky ($5.6 M)
2. Michal Handzus ($4.0 M)
3. Michael Cammalleri ($3.35 M)
4. Dustin Brown ($3.175 M)
5. Alexander Frolov ($2.9 M)
6. Tom Preissing ($2.75 M)
7. Kyle Calder ($2.70 M)
8. Jack Johnson ($2.15 M)
9. Derek Armstrong ($1.5 M)
10. Anze Kopitar ($955,867)
11. Jason LaBarbera ($825,000)
12. Raitis Ivannas ($600,000)
+ Alyn McCauley buyout ($666,667) 'til 2011
=========================
Approximate Total -- $31.2 million

SIGNED RETURNING PLAYERS POSSIBLE TO MAKE TEAM (4)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
13. Thomas Hickey -- $1.375 million
14. Teddy Purcell -- $1.35 million
15. Brian Boyle -- $835,000
16. Matt Ellis -- $475,000
=========================
Approximate Total -- $4.1 million

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS LIKELY/POSSIBLE TO MAKE TEAM (3)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
17. Patrick O'Sullivan (RFA $850,800)
18. Erik Ersberg (RFA $750,000)
19. Peter Harrold (RFA $500,000)

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS LIKELY/POSSIBLE TO MAKE TEAM (1)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
20. Rob Blake (UFA $6.0 M)
Petiot (UFA)

OTHER RETURNING PLAYERS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Cloutier ($3.1 M)
John Zeiler ($568,750)
Brady Murray -- $943,000
Lauri Tukonen -- $886,000
Jonathan Bernier -- $872,000
Trevor Lewis -- $855,000
Marc-Andre Cliche -- $850,000
Wayne Simmonds -- $850,000
Kevin Westgarth -- $850,000
Jonathan Quick -- $770,000
Drew Bagnall -- $750,000
Scott Parse -- $750,000
Patrik Hersley -- $535,000
Daniel Taylor -- $509,000
Ned Lukacevic -- $500,000
Vladimir Dravecky -- $498,000

OTHER RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS LIKELY TO RETURN
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gabe Gauthier -- $650,000 last season
21. Matt Moulson -- $478,000 last season

FREE AGENTS UN-LIKELY TO RETURN
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ladislav Nagy (UFA)
Brian Willsie (UFA)
Scott Thornton (UFA)
Kevin Dallman (UFA)
Jon Klemm (UFA)
Brad Stuart (Traded)
Jaroslav Modry (Traded)
=====

PLUS STILL TO ADD IN ONE OF
22.
23.

=========================
about = $ ##,###,###.00 Mil Total Guys {of $50.3 Million MAX Salary CAP}

So about a little over $##.# Mil REMAINING for our RFA Guys {MQO's = $#,###,### Mil}, and other extras.
==========================

So I've got us looking SOMETHING like this for both teams -
($ NHL Salary CAP Hit $) : RFA / UFA player

2008-2009 Los Angeles Kings
==============================
PATRICK O'SULLIVAN (RFA $850,800) / ANZE KOPITAR ($955,867) / DUSTIN BROWN ($3.175 M)
ALEXANDER FROLOV ($2.9 M) / MICHAL HANDZUS ($4.0 M) / MICHAEL CAMMALLERI ($3.35 M)
LADISLAV NAGY (UFA $3.75 M) / DEREK ARMSTRONG ($1.5 M) / KYLE CALDER ($2.7 M)
RAITIS IVANANS ($600,000) / SCOTT THORNTON (UFA $1.5 M) / BRIAN WILLSIE (UFA $850,000)
JEFF GIULIANO (UFA $475,000), JOHN ZEILER ($568,750)

ROB BLAKE (UFA $6.0 M) / LUBOMIR VISNOVSKY ($5.6 M)
PETER HARROLD (RFA $719,250) / TOM PREISSING ($2.75 M)
KEVIN DALLMAN (UFA $477,500) / JACK JOHNSON ($2.15 M)
JON KLEMM (UFA $500,000), RICHARD PETIOT (UFA-IV $627,000)

JASON LABARBERA ($825,000)
ERIC ERSBERG (RFA $525,000)
DAN CLOUTIER ($3.1 M)


2008-2009 Manchester Monarchs
===============================
TEDDY PURCELL ($1.35 M) / BRIAN BOYLE ($835,000) / LAURI TUKONEN ($885,780)
SCOTT PARSE ($750,000) / TREVOR LEWIS ($855,000) / MARC-ANDRE CLICHE ($850,000)
VLADIMIR DRAVECKY ($497,500) / GABE GAUTHIER (RFA $650,000) / MATT MOULSON (RFA $477,500)
PETR KANKO (RFA $495,000) / BRADY MURRAY ($942,400) / KEVIN WESTGARTH ($850,000)
DAVID MECKLER (AHL contract), PAUL CROSTY (UFA AHL contract)

JOE PISKULA (RFA $1.125 M) / RICHARD PETIOT (UFA-IV $627,000)
DREW BAGNALL ($???,???) / PATRIK HERSLEY ($535,000)
TROY MILAM (UFA AHL contract) / JEFF LIKENS (UFA AHL contract)
P.J. ATHERTON (UFA AHL contract), BRENDAN BUCKLEY (UFA $462,500)

JONATHAN QUICK ($770,000)
JEFF ZATKOFF ($???,???)

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You said you can dam well make your predictions...the Kings are in the market for a Right-handed D-man or two. Preferably a tough one or two...Bogosian,Schenn would fill the prescription though a Doughty and Teubert would not be bad either...you are such a hard ass,make my predictions eh!
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