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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by Unruely35
Do I smell Pie???
As in Humble Pie or Miss American Pie?
SO THIS DON'T GET LOST AND CAN BE UPDATED FOR '08-09
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FULL List of PLAYERS in the SYSTEM * ... 50 MAX to signed SPC contracts and 90 players/prospects TOTAL overall in your organization.
*{Either Played for Kings / Monarchs this year, a Draftee / Signed Prospect, or Name was listed on the 'Official Team' sites}
Sorted by {REMAINING CONTRACT LENGTH}, includes dates Prospects need to be signed by.
FORWARDS in the pipeline for KINGS & Manchester :
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Signed for next year
1. *DUSTIN BROWN #23 - (LW/RW) 6'0" / 200# / R / Nov 4, 1984 / Ithaca, NY, USA {6yr}
2. *MICHAL HANDZUS #26 - (C/LW) 6'5" / 217# / L / Mar 11, 1977 / Banska Bystrica, SVK {3 yr}
3. *JOHN ZEILER #73 - (RW) 6'0" / 196# / R / Nov 21, 1982 / Jefferson Hills, PA, USA {3 yr}
4. *ALEXANDER FROLOV #24 - (LW) 6'2" / 210# / R / Jun 19, 1982 / Moscow, RUS {2 yr}
5. *TREVOR LEWIS #61 - (C) 6'1" / 192# / R / Jan 8, 1987 / Salt Lake City, UT, USA {2 yr ELC}
6. *MARC-ANDRE CLICHE #67 - (RW) 6'0" / 175# / R / Mar 23, 1987 / Rouyn-Noranda, QC, CAN {2 yr ELC}
7. *KYLE CALDER #19 - (LW/RW) 5'11" / 180# / L / Jan 5, 1979 / Mannville, Alta., CAN {1 yr}
8. *DEREK ARMSTRONG #7 - (C) 6'0" / 190# / R / Apr 23, 1973 / Ottawa, ON, CAN {1 yr}
9. *KEVIN WESTGARTH #33 - (RW) 6'5" / 245# / R / Feb 7, 1984 / Amherstburg, ON, CAN {1 yr ELC}
10. *BRADY MURRAY #68 - (C) 5'9" / 165# / L / Aug 17, 1984 / Brandon, MB, CAN {1 yr ELC}
11. *TEDDY PURCELL #54 - (RW/C) 6'2" / 175# / R / Sep 8, 1985 / St. John's, NL, CAN {1 yr ELC}
12. *NED LUKACEVIC #59 - (LW) 6'0" / 185# / L / Feb 11, 1986 / Podogorcia, YUG {1 yr ELC}
13. *LAURI TUKONEN #34 - (RW) 6'2" / 198# / R / Sep 1, 1986 / Hyvinkaa, FIN {1 yr ELC}
14. *ANZE KOPITAR #11 - (C) 6'4" / 220# / L / Aug 24, 1987 / Jesenice, SVN {1 yr ELC}
15. *VLADIMIR DRAVECKY #60 - (RW) 5'10" / 185# / L / June 3, 1985 / Kosice, SVK {1 yr ELC}
16. *SCOTT PARSE #63 - (LW/C) 6'1" / 185# / R / Sep 5, 1984 / Kalamazoo, MI, USA {1 yr ELC}
17. *MICHAEL CAMMALLERI #13 - (C/RW) 5'9" / 185# / L / Jun 8, 1982 / Richmond Hill, ON, CAN {1 yr}
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18. *LADISLAV NAGY #47 - (LW) 5'11" / 192# / L / Jun 1, 1979 / Saca, SVK {0 yr}
19. *SCOTT THORNTON #27 "A" - (LW) 6'3" / 220# / L / Jan 9, 1971 / London, ON, CAN {0 yr}
20. *BRIAN WILLSIE #21 - (RW) 6'1" / 202# / R / Mar 16, 1978 / London, ON, CAN {0 yr}
21. *RAITIS IVANANS #41 - (LW) 6'3" / 263# / L / Jan 1, 1979 / Riga, LVA {1 yr + New?}
22. *MATT MOULSON #70 - (LW) 6'1" / 210# / L / Nov 1, 1983 / North York, ON, CAN {0 yr ELC}
23. *GABE GAUTHIER #52 - (C/LW) 5'9" / 205# / L / Jan 20, 1984 / Buena Park, CA, USA {0 yr ELC}
24. *DANY ROUSSIN #55 - (LW) 6'2" / 190# / L / Jan 9, 1985 / Quebec City, QC, CAN {0 yr ELC}
25. *PATRICK O'SULLIVAN #12 - (C/LW) 6'0" / 190# / L / Feb 1, 1985 / Winston Salem, NC, USA {0 yr ELC}
26. *JEFF GIULIANO #29 - (LW) 5'9" / 205# / L / Jun 20, 1979 / Nashua, NH, USA {0 yr}
Minimum Qualifying Offers have been tendered to the following RFA's:
27. PETR KANKO #48 - (RW) 5'10" / 195# / L / Feb 7, 1984 / Pribram, CZE = {RFA w/ MQO}
Unsigned Prospects: 51. Bud Holloway #50 - (C) 6'0" / 190# / R / Mar 1, 1988 / Wapella, SK, CAN {signed by 6/1/'08} 52. Constantin Braun #60 - (LW) 6'3" / 198# / L / Mar 11, 1988 / Lampertheim, DEU {by 6/15/'08} 53. Mike 'John' Curry #? - (RW) 6'4" / 190# / R / Sep 20, 1984 / Fort Benning, GA, USA = {by 8/15/'08} 54. Oscar Moller #51 (C) - 5'11" / 179# / R / Jan 22, 1989 / Stockholm, Sweden {by 6/1/'09} 55. Wayne Simmonds #57 (RW) - 6'1" / 162# / R / Aug 26, 1988 / Scarborough, ON CAN {SIGNED 3yr ELC} 56. Bryan Cameron #76 (C/RW) - 5'10" / 175# / R / Feb 25, 1989 / Brampton, ON CAN {by 6/1/'09} 57. Dwight King #74 (C/LW) - 6'2" / 218# / L / July 5, 1989 / Meadowlake, SK CAN {by 6/1/'09} 58. Matt Fillier #77 (C/LW) - 6'0" / 180# / L / Oct 5, 1988 / New Glasgow, NS CAN {by 6/1/'09} 59. DAVID MECKLER #58 - (RW/C) 6'0" / 184# / R / Jul 9, 1987 / Highland Park, IL, USA {by 6/1/'10 - 1yr w/ AHL contract*} 60. Joshua Turnbull #76 (C) - 5'10" / 172# / R / July 12, 1988 / Hayward, WI USA {by 8/15/'11} * LINK David Mekler signs 1 yr w/ Manchester Monarchs
* 26 + 1 Forwards already SIGNED for next year
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DEFENSEMEN in the pipeline for KINGS & Manchester :
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Signed for next year
28. *LUBOMIR VISNOVSKY #17 - (D) 5'10" / 188# / L / Aug 11, 1976 / Topolcany, SVK {5 yr}
29. *TOM PREISSING #42 - (D) 6'0" / 205# / R / Dec 3, 1978 / Arlington Heights, IL, USA {3 yr}
30. *PATRIK HERSLEY #64 - (D) 6'3" / 205# / Jun 23, 1986 / Malmo, SWE {2 yr ELC} 31. **THOMAS HICKEY #37 - (D) 5'11" / 182# / L / Feb 8, 1989 / Calgary, AB, CAN {3 yr ELC}
32. *JACK JOHNSON #3 - (D) 6'1" / 201# / L / Jan 13, 1987 / Indianapolis, IN, USA {1 yr ELC}
33. *BRIAN BOYLE #71 - (D) 6'7" / 250# / L / Dec 18, 1984 / Dorchester, MA, USA {1 yr ELC}- report is he'll play D}
34. *DREW BAGNALL #78 - (D) 6'3" / 220# / L / Oct 26, 1983 / Oakbank, MB, CAN {1 yr ELC}
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35. *BRAD STUART #6 - (D) 6'2" / 220# / L / Nov 06, 1979 / Rocky Mountain House, AB., CAN {Traded}
36. *ROB BLAKE #4 "A" - (D) 6'4" / 225# / R / Dec 10, 1969 / Simcoe, ON, CAN {0 yr}
37. *BRENDAN BUCKLEY #22 - (D) 6'2" / 205# / R / Feb 26, 1977 / Boston, MA, USA {0 yr}
38. *KEVIN DALLMAN #38 - (D) 5'11" / 195# / L / Feb 26, 1981 / Niagara Falls, ON, CAN {0 yr}
39. *JOE PISKULA #43 - (D) 6'3" / 214# / L / Jul 5, 1984 / Antigo, WI, USA {0 yr ELC}
40. *RICHARD PETIOT #2 - (D) 6'3" / 200# / L / Aug 20, 1982 / Daysland, AB, CAN {0 yr w/ MQO or Better $}
41. *JAROSLAV MODRY #44 - (D) 6'2" / 220# / L / Feb 27, 1971 / Ceske-Budejovice, CZE {Traded}
42. *JON KLEMM #25 - (D) 6'2" / 205# / R / Jan 8, 1970 / Cranbrook, B.C., CAN {0 yr / 2-way}
Minimum Qualifying Offers have been tendered to the following RFA's:
43. PETER HARROLD #49 - (D) 5'11" / 195# / R / Jun 8, 1983 / Kirtland Hills, OH, USA {RFA w/ MQO}
Unsigned Prospects: 61. Joe Ryan #56 - (D) 6'2" / 189# / R / Oct 19, 1987 / Winchester, MA, USA {signed by 6/1/'08} 62. Niclas Andersen #?? - (D) 6'1" / 207# / Apr 28, 1988 / Grums, SWE {signed by 6/15/'08} 63. Johan Fransson #?? - (D) 6'1" / 183# / Feb 18, 1985 / Kalix, SWE {by 6/15/'08} 64. Tomas Zizka #?? (D) - 6'1" / 198# / Oct 10, 1979 / Sternberk, CZE {July 1, 2008 Link explaining the enigma} 65. Paul Baier #?? - (D) 6'3" / 212# / Feb 2, 1985 / Summit, NJ, USA {by 8/15/'08} 66. T.J. Fast #72 - (D) 6'1" / 190# / Sep 2, 1987 / Calgary, AB, CAN {by 6/1/'09} 67. Josh Kidd #53 (D) - 6'4" / 220# / R / Nov 16, 1988 / Sundridge, ON CAN {by 6/1/'09} 68. Josh Meyers #?? - (D) 6'2" / 180# / Dec 7, 1985 / Alexandria, MN, USA {by 8/15/'09} 69. Alec Martinez #?? (D) - 6'0" / 188# / L / July 26, 1987 / Rochester Hills, MI USA {by 8/15/'09} 70. Martin Nolet #?? - (D) 6'3" / 209# / Oct 2, 1986 / Quebec City, QC, CAN {by 8/15/'10}
* 16 + 1 Defensemen SIGNED for next year * Hickey falls under -- Age 18 and age 19 Players who when returned to CHL Juniors, and who have
not played 10 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player Limit
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GOALIES in the pipeline for KINGS & Manchester :
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Signed for next year
44. *JONATHAN QUICK #32 - (G) 6'0" / 180# / Jan 21, 1986 / Milford, CT, USA {2 yr ELC} 45. **JONATHAN BERNIER #45 - (G) 6'0" / 177# / L / Aug 7, 1988 / Laval, QC, CAN {3 yr ELC}
46. *DAN CLOUTIER #39 - (G) 6'1" / 195# / L / Apr 22, 1976 / Mont-Laurier, QC, CAN {1 yr}
47. *JASON LABARBERA #35 - (G) 6'3" / 230# / L / Jan 18, 1980 / Burnaby, BC, CAN {1 yr}
48. *DANIEL TAYLOR #46 - (G) 6'0" / 179# / L / Apr 28, 1986 / Plymouth, GBR {1 yr ELC}
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49. *ERIK ERSBERG #31 - (G) 5'11" / 182 / Mar 8, 1982 / Sala, SWE {0 yr}
50. *JEAN-SEBASTIEN AUBIN #1 - (G) 5'11" / 180 / R / July 19, 1977 / Montreal, QC, CAN {Traded}
Unsigned Prospects: 71. Linden Rowat #75 (G) - 6'1" / 177# / L / June 27, 1989 / Cochrane, AB CAN {by 6/1/'09} 72. Jeff Zatkoff #?? - (G) 6'1" / 150# / Jun 9, 1987 / Detroit, MI, USA {by 8/15/'09}
* 7 Goalies SIGNED for next year * Bernier falls under -- Age 18 and age 19 Players who when returned to CHL Juniors, and who have
not played 10 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player Limit
Players remaining in AHL / ECHL {for M.Monarchs & R.Royals} :
---------------------------------------------------------------- 73. MATT RYAN #40 - (C) 5'11" / 185# / R / Nov 12, 1983 / Sharon, ON, CAN = {1yr AHL Manchester Contract*} TROY MILAM #81 (D) - 27 yr / 6' / 185 lb / Michigan, USA = {1yr AHL Manchester Contract*} P.J. ATHERTON #?? (D) - 24 yr / 6'2" / 205 lb / Minnesota, USA = {1yr AHL Manchester Contract*} PAUL CROSTY #80 (F/D) - 24 yr / 6'2" / 220 / 1982 / CAN = {1yr AHL Manchester Contract*} JEFF LIKENS #79 - (D) 5'11" / 178 / 1985 = {1yr AHL Manchester Contract*} * LINK monarchshockey.com - {Ryan, Milam, Atherton} * LINK monarchshockey.com - {Crosty} * LINK Union Leader - Monarchs Insider: Off-season starts now for Monarchs - {Jeff Likens}
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The following RFA players were not tendered qualifying offers, therefore making them UFA's: Yutaka Fukufuji - (G) 6'1" / 160# / L / Sep 17, 1982 / Kushiro, JPN {RFA - UFA}
--------- Sean Burke - (G) 6'4" / 209# / L / Jan 29, 1967 / Windsor, ON, CAN {UFA / Retirement ?} Alyn McCauley = {{UFA} - Bought Out*} 74*. Valtteri Tenkanen - (F) 5'11" / 183# / Mar 27, 1985 / Jamsa, FIN {6/15/'07 *or '08 ?? - UL - Not Signing*} {UFA} Jan Marek = {Lost his rights on 6/15/'07, UFA} - UL - Not Signing*} Ryan McGinnis = {Lost his rights on 6/1/'07, UFA / Re-enters draft} Martin Guerin = {Lost his rights on 8/15/'07, UFA} Mike Sullivan = {Lost his rights on 8/15/'07, UFA} * LINK to Rich Hammond Blog - McCauley Buy Out * LINK to UnionLeader Report - Kings have NO PLAN to SIGN
The following UFA/RFA players have signed with other teams and are no longer in the Kings System : Barry Brust = {Signed w/ AHL, Houston Aeros} Noah Clarke = {Signed w/ New Jersey Devils} Mathieu Garon = {Signed w/ Edmonton Oilers} Jamie Heward = OFF to SKA St. Petersburg* Greg Hogeboom = OFF to Europe* Tim Jackman = {Signed w/ New York Islanders} T.J. Kemp = {Signed w/ Edmonton Oilers} Tom Kostopoulos = {Signed w/ Montreal Canadiens} Jamie Lundmark = OFF to Dynamo Moscow* Aaron Miller = {Signed w/ Vancouver Canucks} Joey Mormina = {Signed w/ Carolina Hurricanes} Marty Murray = OFF to Europe* Doug Nolan = OFF to Europe* Shay Stephenson = OFF to Europe* Mike Weaver = {Signed w/ Pittsburgh Penguins} Eric Werner = OFF to Europe* Matt Zaba = {Signed w/ N.Y. Rangers} * LINK Zaba signs w/ Rangers * LINK Stephenson signs w/ HJC Milano Vipers (Italy) * LINK Heward signs w/ SKA St. Petersburg * LINK to Cory Brolund's FA List Signings - {Europe Guys}
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Included above 10 = 2007 Draft Picks, within the 90 spots 2007 DRAFT PICKS (10)
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6 Forwards / 3 Defensemen / 1 Goalies
1st Rd - #4 overal = THOMAS HICKEY (D) - 5'11" / 182# / L / Feb 8, 1989 / Calgary, AB, CAN SIGNED
2nd Rd - #52 = Oscar Moller (C) - 5'11" / 179# / R / Jan 22, 1989 / Stockholm, Sweden {by 6/1/'09}
2nd Rd - #61 = Wayne Simmonds (RW) - 6'1" / 162# / R / Aug 26, 1988 / Scarborough, ON CAN {by 6/1/'09}
3rd Rd - #82 = Bryan Cameron (C/RW) - 5'10" / 175# / R / Feb 25, 1989 / Brampton, ON CAN {by 6/1/'09}
4th Rd - #95 = Alec Martinez (D) - 6'0" / 188# / L / July 26, 1987 / Rochester Hills, MI USA {by 8/15/'09}
4th Rd - #109 = Dwight King (C/LW) - 6'2" / 218# / L / July 5, 1989 / Meadowlake, SK CAN {by 6/1/'09}
4th Rd - #124 = Linden Rowat (G) - 6'1" / 177# / L / June 27, 1989 / Cochrane, AB CAN {by 6/1/'09}
5th Rd - #137 = Joshua Turnbull (C) - 5'10" / 172# / R / July 12, 1988 / Hayward, WI USA {by 8/15/'11}
7th Rd - #184 = Josh Kidd (D) - 6'4" / 220# / R / Nov 16, 1988 / Sundridge, ON CAN {by 6/1/'09}
7th Rd - #188 = Matt Fillier (C/LW) - 6'0" / 180# / L / Oct 5, 1988 / New Glasgow, NS CAN {by 6/1/'09}
PLUS 14 = 2008 Draft Picks, additional space needed within the 90 spots, for next year 2008 DRAFT PICKS (14)
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1st Rd: LA
1st Rd: From Dallas (Norstrom trade)
2nd Rd: LA
2nd Rd: From Calgary (Conroy trade)
2nd Rd: From Detroit (Stuart trade)
3rd Rd: LA
3rd Rd: From Philadelphia (Modry trade)
3rd Rd: From New York Rangers (Avery deal because Marek didn't come to NA, sign w/ Kings)
4th Rd: *LA - traded away to WSH (traded to WSH for a 2007 4th round pick {Alec Martinez}
4th Rd: Dallas's 4th, From Tampa Bay (Munce trade)
4th Rd: From Vancouver (Sopel trade)
5th Rd: LA (To WAS if Kings re-signed Heward, but they didn't)
6th Rd: LA
7th Rd: LA
7th Rd: From Anaheim (Aubin trade)
2009 DRAFT PICKS (7)
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1st Rd: LA
2nd Rd: LA
3rd Rd: *LA - traded to VAN (Cloutier trade)
4th Rd: LA
4th Rd: From Detroit (Stuart trade)
5th Rd: LA
6th Rd: LA
7th Rd: LA
2010 DRAFT PICKS (7)
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1st Rd: LA
2nd Rd: LA
3rd Rd: LA
4th Rd: LA
5th Rd: LA
6th Rd: LA
7th Rd: LA
================================================== ==== Note ... Kings have used up 50 of their 50 Max SPC's,
PLUS w/ Prospects 74 of their 90 Max Players in the System.
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OK, this will be another work-in-progress post that we should work on as the team and season progress, that I'm adding to this sticky so we don't lose it ...
This is based around Dean Lombardi's principles and the plan he seems to have in place to make the Kings a contender, regarding his Prospect "Reserve List" of Age Groups, "CORE" players already on the team he wants to retain, and his "Fillers, Bridges & Builders" comment about the Free Agent market.
Builders = 'guy who's here when young players come into lineup and still help be a Contender' Bridges = 'guy that helps the young players that you've got become better players' Fillers = 'one-year deal warm body types'
PLAYERS in the System pipeline for KINGS & MONARCHS :
FORWARDS / DEFENSEMEN / GOALIES ... 'CORE' Player?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Signed for next year * AHL Manchester Monarchs contract next year
Code:
18-21 yr old's
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Dwight King 17 *Thomas Hickey 18 Linden Rowat 18 .
Oscar Moller 18 Josh Kidd 18 *JONATHAN BERNIER 18
Wayne Simmonds 18 Alec Martinez 19 Jeff Zatkoff 20
Bryan Cameron 18 Joe Ryan 19 *JONATHAN QUICK 21
Joshua Turnbull 18 Niclas Andersen 19 *DANIEL TAYLOR 21
Matt Fillier 18 T.J. Fast 19
*ANZE KOPITAR 19 *PATRIK HERSLEY 20
Bud Holloway 19 *JACK JOHNSON 20
Constantin Braun 19 Martin Nolet 20
*TREVOR LEWIS 20 Josh Meyers 21
*MARC-ANDRE CLICHE 20
*LAURI TUKONEN 20
*David Meckler 20
*NED LUKACEVIC 21
Mike Curry 21
22-25 yr old's
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*SCOTT PARSE 22 *BRIAN BOYLE 22 *ERIK ERSBERG 25
*DUSTIN BROWN 22 *JOE PISKULA 22
*PATRICK O'SULLIVAN 22 Johan Fransson 22
*TEDDY PURCELL 22 *JEFF LIKENS 22
*