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Joe Sakic - 15th overall
Nicklas Lidstrom - 53rd overall
Chris Chelios - 40th overall
Steve Yzerman - 4th overall
Brett Hull - 117th overall
Luc Robitaille - 171st overall
Ray Bourque - 8th overall
Patrick Roy - 51st overall
Dominik Hasek - 191st overall
Mark Messier - 48th overall
Dino Ciccarelli - never drafted

It ain't always about locking up the number one draft pick.

Nuts to Stamkos. Nuts to a top five pick and nuts to all this hand wringing about the "black hole" or "bottomless pit" or whatever you want to call it.
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wasn't Patrick Stefan a number one bust too?
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Kopitar - 11th
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Frolov - 20th
O'Sullivan - 56th
Cammalleri - 49th
Visnovsky - 118th
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Here are another few to look at:

Henrik Zetterberg - 210th Overall (7th Round)

Pavel Datsyuk 171st Overall (6th ROund)

Chris Chelios 40th Overall (2nd Round)

Kris Draper 62nd Overall (3rdd Round)

Tomas Holmstrom 257th Overall (Round 10)
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Here are another few to look at:

Henrik Zetterberg - 210th Overall (7th Round)

Pavel Datsyuk 171st Overall (6th ROund)

Chris Chelios 40th Overall (2nd Round)

Kris Draper 62nd Overall (3rdd Round)

Tomas Holmstrom 257th Overall (Round 10)
I included Chelios ya dink.

I chose players with impressive careers instead of just looking up the best team in the league and rooting for them.
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During their first 27 years in the league, the Kings traded away their first-round draft pick 20 times.

During this period, the Kings' bizarre trading strategy netted players like Gerry Desjardins, Ron Grahame, Bob Janecyk, Bob Murdoch, Terry Harper, Jerry Korab, Rick Chartraw, Skip Krake, Randy Rota, Gene Carr and Glenn Goldup.

In the process, they lost the chance to draft Ray Bourque, Phil Housley, Steve Shutt, Reggie Leach, Mario Tremblay, Pierre Mondou, Ron Duguay, Eddie Olczyk and Claude Lemieux.

Now which group of players would you rather have?

Perspective.

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You're more likely to get a better player the earlier the draft pick. However, you're more likely to get a bargain, a better player for the money somewhere in the 4-10 slot (where you don't have to give up those A status rookie contracts).

Under the cap you can only afford so many expensive top picks, especially those that won't contribute right away. How much money is Marc Andre Fleury really worth? Has Bobby Ryan earned that 2 million this year?
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Patrick Kane
Erik Johnson
Sidney Crosby
Alexander Ovechkin
Marc-Andre Fleury
Rick Nash
Ilya Kovalchuk
Rick DiPietro
Patrik Stefan
Vincent Lecavalier
Joe Thornton

Number one picks.... if I had shown the top five each year it would be more convincing. Of course there is a chance of getting lucky in a late round but your chances of getting 'lucky' with an earlier pick are considerably higher. Though, no guarantee is made either way (see Stefan, Patrik).

I know you're not arguing picking later is better, just wanted to show both sides of the coin. Either way, the development of the young players knocking us out of the top five pick is something I'm very happy with.
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Always an advocate of the devil, I have to ask... selection bias much? It's not that you can't find "that guy" elsewhere in (and out of) the draft, it's that your odds are better.

But please, carry on. The majority of Stamkosians, in their misguided fervor, never really understood why I inserted the name Stamkos in that Food Court mustard thread awhile back, and they should seek perspective in all its forms.
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