Want less ads?
Join Team LGK
for only $5

Official LA Kings Shop

LA Kings Hats icon
Men's Apparel icon
Women's Apparel icon
Kid's Wear icon
Collectibles and Memorabilia icon
Home / Office icon
Toys and Games icon
DVD's and CD's icon
Kings Gifts icon
Kings Auctions
Hockey Books
Entertainment Books
iPod Connection
LGK T-Shirts
NHL Personal Checks

Tag Cloud
2008 acquire avery back big birthday blake blues call cammalleri camp coach coyotes crawford cup day deal dean derby dolls doughty draft ducks final flames free game go kings happy head hockey inside interview itk jersey july kings lgk lombardi lubo make mccain news nhl obama penguins pick picks play prospects question rob round season sharks sign signs stanley team teubert thread times today top trade video visnovsky wings year years
Rinkrat's iPod  



Go Back   Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum > LetsGoKings.com > LA Kings Talk
Reload this Page O' Sullivan the next Jason Spezza?
Register GalleryBlogs FAQ Calendar Arcade Wagering

Notices
Welcome to the LetsGoKings.com forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Thank you for crosschecking our sponsors!

About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum.
Originally Posted by coachrob Sully is only as good as his line-mates. In order for him to be more like Spezza, he needs to be productive regardless of who is

Reply
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM   #19
Conn Smythe Winner TWICE
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,984
Thanks: 6
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
OrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond repute
OrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond reputeOrangePuck has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 1
Points: 9,624, Level: 23
Points: 9,624, Level: 23 Points: 9,624, Level: 23 Points: 9,624, Level: 23
Level up: 47%, 426 Points needed
Level up: 47% Level up: 47% Level up: 47%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%

View Myspace Profile
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by coachrob View Post
Sully is only as good as his line-mates. In order for him to be more like Spezza, he needs to be productive regardless of who is on his line!
hmmmmm.....me thinks coachrob is not actually a coach
OrangePuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:31 PM   #20
Successful Former King
 
moontheloon23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 375
Thanks: 3
Thanked 16 Times in 4 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
moontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond repute
moontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 2,597, Level: 11
Points: 2,597, Level: 11 Points: 2,597, Level: 11 Points: 2,597, Level: 11
Level up: 87%, 53 Points needed
Level up: 87% Level up: 87% Level up: 87%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by Die Radio Die View Post
Sounds good to me.

I kind of like to think of his potential as a more physical Ilya Kovalchuk -15 goals a year.
I think you're forgetting that Kovalchuk is a ****ing beast. 6'1 225. Dude is thick. Sully may be strong, but he's not that big.

I'm buying Marc Savard though.
User owns 1x Abe Vigoda
moontheloon23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:32 PM   #21
2nd Scoring Line
 
KBA4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 914
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
KBA4life has a reputation beyond repute
KBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond reputeKBA4life has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 4,823, Level: 16
Points: 4,823, Level: 16 Points: 4,823, Level: 16 Points: 4,823, Level: 16
Level up: 46%, 327 Points needed
Level up: 46% Level up: 46% Level up: 46%
Activity: 4%
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
Default
permalink
The better comparison is Antoine Vermette with a bit more offensive upside imo. Solid, two way players that are fast as hell
KBA4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:34 PM   #22
Formerly kingjozef
 
anjae11eden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,211
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
anjae11eden has a reputation beyond repute
anjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond reputeanjae11eden has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 5,920, Level: 18
Points: 5,920, Level: 18 Points: 5,920, Level: 18 Points: 5,920, Level: 18
Level up: 29%, 430 Points needed
Level up: 29% Level up: 29% Level up: 29%
Activity: 9%
Activity: 9% Activity: 9% Activity: 9%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
You'd be much better off and happier if O'Sullivan turned out to be only half as good as Spezza but actually played at or above his normal ability in the playoffs/Cup Finals.

Nothing sucks more than getting to the Cup finals and having your best player suck balls. (see 2003... Kariya, Paul)
Never thought I'd say this to you but...I couldn't agree more. I don't know why he seemed to get a free pass from all the hockey experts either. I thought sure after the playoffs something would be made public about an injury or something, but no.
I heard Heatley and others get their share of criticism, but not Spezza. And in my opinion he was flat out horrible. Forget his lack of scoring, he had no effort and consistently turned the puck over and lead to duck goals numerous times.
He sucked! I am hoping for more for O'Sully!
anjae11eden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:36 PM   #23
Roadrunner Great/WHA MVP
 
KINGS17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 6,330
Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Contributing Member
Karma:
KINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond repute
KINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond reputeKINGS17 has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 6,859, Level: 19
Points: 6,859, Level: 19 Points: 6,859, Level: 19 Points: 6,859, Level: 19
Level up: 73%, 191 Points needed
Level up: 73% Level up: 73% Level up: 73%
Activity: 63%
Activity: 63% Activity: 63% Activity: 63%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
complete with Stanley Cup Finals choke job?
A couple of guys named Gretzky and Messier didn't fair too well in their first Stanley Cup Final either.
KINGS17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:38 PM   #24
T-Hick will make the Team
 
Die Radio Die's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,632
Thanks: 36
Thanked 67 Times in 6 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Crosschecks: 564
High Scores 0
Karma:
Die Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond repute
Die Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond reputeDie Radio Die has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 10,731, Level: 24
Points: 10,731, Level: 24 Points: 10,731, Level: 24 Points: 10,731, Level: 24
Level up: 86%, 119 Points needed
Level up: 86% Level up: 86% Level up: 86%
Activity: 15%
Activity: 15% Activity: 15% Activity: 15%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by moontheloon23 View Post
I think you're forgetting that Kovalchuk is a ****ing beast. 6'1 225. Dude is thick. Sully may be strong, but he's not that big.

I'm buying Marc Savard though.
He's bigger than O'Sullivan but he does not use his body nearly as much as Patrick does.
Die Radio Die is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:40 PM   #25
Exotika!
 
gescom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 19,431
Thanks: 31
Thanked 125 Times in 20 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 2
Points: 14,678, Level: 29
Points: 14,678, Level: 29 Points: 14,678, Level: 29 Points: 14,678, Level: 29
Level up: 23%, 772 Points needed
Level up: 23% Level up: 23% Level up: 23%
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by KBA4life View Post
The better comparison is Antoine Vermette with a bit more offensive upside imo. Solid, two way players that are fast as hell


this is actually a VERY good comparison for O'Sullivan right now.

Vermette is a couple of years older and probably doesn't have Patrick's upside.
gescom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:41 PM   #26
Successful Former King
 
moontheloon23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 375
Thanks: 3
Thanked 16 Times in 4 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
moontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond repute
moontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond reputemoontheloon23 has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 2,597, Level: 11
Points: 2,597, Level: 11 Points: 2,597, Level: 11 Points: 2,597, Level: 11
Level up: 87%, 53 Points needed
Level up: 87% Level up: 87% Level up: 87%
Activity: 5%
Activity: 5% Activity: 5% Activity: 5%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangePuck View Post
You'd be much better off and happier if O'Sullivan turned out to be only half as good as Spezza but actually played at or above his normal ability in the playoffs/Cup Finals.

Nothing sucks more than getting to the Cup finals and having your best player suck balls. (see 2003... Kariya, Paul)
Speaking of Paul Kariya...

User owns 1x Abe Vigoda
moontheloon23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:41 PM   #27
Exotika!
 
gescom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 19,431
Thanks: 31
Thanked 125 Times in 20 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute
gescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond reputegescom has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
LGK Annual Award LGK Annual Award 
Total Awards: 2
Points: 14,678, Level: 29
Points: 14,678, Level: 29 Points: 14,678, Level: 29 Points: 14,678, Level: 29
Level up: 23%, 772 Points needed
Level up: 23% Level up: 23% Level up: 23%
Activity: 100%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by KINGS17 View Post
A couple of guys named Gretzky and Messier didn't fair too well in their first Stanley Cup Final either.

again... i think "choke job" is completely unfair to Jason. he had a bad series, so what? it happens.
gescom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:51 PM   #28
he's hammered by johnson
 
EvanP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 410
Thanks: 18
Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
EvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond repute
EvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond reputeEvanP has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 1,659, Level: 9
Points: 1,659, Level: 9 Points: 1,659, Level: 9 Points: 1,659, Level: 9
Level up: 37%, 191 Points needed
Level up: 37% Level up: 37% Level up: 37%
Activity: 6%
Activity: 6% Activity: 6% Activity: 6%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by coachrob View Post
Sully is only as good as his line-mates. In order for him to be more like Spezza, he needs to be productive regardless of who is on his line!
yeah so if you wanna see if the kid is any good play him with guilano and ivanans!!!
EvanP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:08 PM   #29
Zero to Tutti Frutti
 
AutomaticBzooty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 692
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Crosschecks: 0
High Scores 0
Karma:
AutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond repute
AutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond reputeAutomaticBzooty has a reputation beyond repute


Awards Showcase
Points: 2,627, Level: 11
Points: 2,627, Level: 11 Points: 2,627, Level: 11 Points: 2,627, Level: 11
Level up: 95%, 23 Points needed
Level up: 95% Level up: 95% Level up: 95%
Activity: 1%
Activity: 1% Activity: 1% Activity: 1%
Default
permalink
Quote:
Originally Posted by coachrob View Post
Sully is only as good as his line-mates. In order for him to be more like Spezza, he needs to be productive regardless of who is on his line!
I COMPLETELY disagree with this. I think he's great no matter what role he's placed in. PK, forechecking....he's like the Energizer Bunny.

Sort of related, something that I've noticed with our top 5 forwards (Kopitar, Brown, Frolov, Cammy, O'Sullivan) is that they seem to be completely interchangeable, and still dominant. In other words, you can pick any three of them from a hat and you'll have a great line. None of this "Army needs to play with Luc," "Palffy needs to play with Allison," "Conroy needs to play with Demitra" crap. They all seem to have great ch