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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Are you people suggesting that Handzus is the Slovak word for Cloutier?
I agree with Creeping Death. Crawford has not tied his hands offensively at all. He's had quality linemates for nearly the whole season. At various times - Frolov, O'Sullivan, Calder, Purcell, Moulson, etc. He has been given occasional power play time and has been totally unable to create. But my favorite myth is that Handzus is a shut down center. Shot blocker - yes. Decent on the pk - yes. But as far as shutting down another team's big guns, I have not seen that at all.
I know the guy missed an entire season but shouldnt he back in "game shape" after 60 games?
The majority of doctors and athletes (save some of the exceptional ones) will tell you that it usually takes an entire year to recover from this type of injury. It's a bit more complicated than your run of the mill knee injury because it wasn't just his ACL -- he had a complete tear of BOTH the ACL and the MCL.
I posted similar comments in a thread earlier this year, but what he did or should still be experiencing is pain when trying to bend his knees, make sharp turns, pivots, and sudden stops. Balance would also become an issue because at times it feel like your leg is dropping out from under you and you have no support.
The balance issue was more noticeable early in the season when he was getting knocked over real easy, but lately he's been able to keep himself upright and strong when keeping possession of the puck along the boards. So it would appear he's over that particular hurdle.
You also have to wonder if there are some lingering psychological issues as well. Some players get jumpy and over protective of the leg by being too focused on anything that comes at their feet for fear of repeating their injury. Similar to how some quarterbacks that get hit too much and concussed get skittish in the pocket and either run or throw the ball away when they feel pressure coming. I'm not saying that is the case here with Handzus, but it's something to consider, I think.
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Originally Posted by Jim Jones
If he isn't scoring at least .6pts/gm midway through next season, trade his ass to make room for Boyle.
He has a No Movement Clause in his contract. He'd have to give his okay before you could even trade, waive, or demote him to the minors.
The majority of doctors and athletes (save some of the exceptional ones) will tell you that it usually takes an entire year to recover from this type of injury. It's a bit more complicated than your run of the mill knee injury because it wasn't just his ACL -- he had a complete tear of BOTH the ACL and the MCL.
I posted similar comments in a thread earlier this year, but what he did or should still be experiencing is pain when trying to bend his knees, make sharp turns, pivots, and sudden stops. Balance would also become an issue because at times it feel like your leg is dropping out from under you and you have no support.
The balance issue was more noticeable early in the season when he was getting knocked over real easy, but lately he's been able to keep himself upright and strong when keeping possession of the puck along the boards. So it would appear he's over that particular hurdle.
You also have to wonder if there are some lingering psychological issues as well. Some players get jumpy and over protective of the leg by being too focused on anything that comes at their feet for fear of repeating their injury. Similar to how some quarterbacks that get hit too much and concussed get skittish in the pocket and either run or throw the ball away when they feel pressure coming. I'm not saying that is the case here with Handzus, but it's something to consider, I think.
Handzus had his ACL surgery Nov. 16 2006. Its been 16 months since his ACL surgery. Its suppose to take a year before he's back to 100%. This was a very serious surgery, and he may not EVER recover from it. If his knee is that messed up that its the reason he is playing this badly, why is he still in the lineup? If its a nagging injury, why not shut him down for the year and let it heal some more? I mean they are in last place anyways with no hope of making the playoffs. Why would they need Handzus to skate?
Let's be honest here. Handzus just doesn't have it. He is on the penalty kill but he may be the reason we are one of the worst at killing penalties.. More times than not, he gives up the puck to easy when he has it in the offensive zone.. His speed is weak and I don't think I have seen him take a slap shot all year. He does not create any scoring chances for anyone. He is as much a flop as Cloutier.
I lost all respect for Zus when he allowed Pronger to pummel him. Zus has no fire in his ass. Looks like he just collects a check. Another bad signing by the Lombardi regime.
Handzus had his ACL surgery Nov. 16 2006. Its been 16 months since his ACL surgery. Its suppose to take a year before he's back to 100%. This was a very serious surgery, and he may not EVER recover from it. If his knee is that messed up that its the reason he is playing this badly, why is he still in the lineup? If its a nagging injury, why not shut him down for the year and let it heal some more? I mean they are in last place anyways with no hope of making the playoffs. Why would they need Handzus to skate?
The period of a year that I was specifically referring to is the period of time after the surgery and when physical activities can resume. The average period before you can get up and get around for his type of injury is roughly 6-8 months so add 12 months to that. So what we're looking at is about 18-20 months total before he's back to where he was pre-injury. If we're sitting at the 16 month mark like you said then he's still 2-4 months away from making a full recovery back to 100% status.
I don't have hockey player testimonials to go off of, but many football and basketball players have noted that after the 6-8 month period you are functional and can perform, but that subtleties in your game don't return until after a year passes.
Edit: And to address the other part of your post, making him inactive would not help and might hinder him instead. It's repetition and skating the kinks out that'll eventually see him getting back to where he was because on a functional level he is fine and he can skate. It's getting your game and touch back that he needs -- if he can get back.
He doesn't look healthy to me. He always seems hunched over a bit, protective...anybody remember the fabulous goal he scored against the Kings about 7 years ago or so -- I think with Phoenix? Perhaps he can join our pantheon of 1 goal wonders: Bednar (the breakaway), Craig Johnson (the off foot shot) etc.
charles
