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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. It's a stretch to think Vegas will ever get a pro franchise in any sport. It's hard for me to support an expansion plan when the scheduling is already so
It's a stretch to think Vegas will ever get a pro franchise in any sport. It's hard for me to support an expansion plan when the scheduling is already so bad. It's been said here and elsewhere a million times, but every team should play in every city every year. Problem with that when having a 32 team league is that 62 games are immediately accounted for, and you only have 18, 20, or 22 left to spread around to extra contests against the teams in your conference. In an 8-division/4-team-per-division league, you could play divisional teams 4 times (12), conference non-divisional teams 3 times (36) and non-conference teams 2 times (32) for an 80-game schedule in which the home/road imbalance in the intraconference non-divisional games were aligned by conference (pacific is at northwest for the extra, northwest is at central for the extra, central is at "midwest" for the extra, and midwest is at pacific for the extra).
So Vegas gets a team, Atlanta moves to KC, Hamilton gets a team, and Columbus moves to the east for example....
Pacific: LA, SJ, Ana, Pho
Northwest: Edm, Cal, Van, Col
Midwest: Dal, KC, StL, LV
Central: Det, Nash, Chi, Min
Northeast: Ham, Mon, Ott, Tor
East: Buff, Pit, Phil, CBJ
Atlantic: Bos, NYR, NYI, NJ
Southeast: Fla, Car, Tampa, Wash
Division winners are in, next top-4 by points, all playoff seeds by points...
(or if nashville moved instead of atlanta, columbus could stay, washington could join the "east", and Atl would stay southeast, blah blah blah)
One natural rivalry isn't preserved (Bos/Mon), one American team is alone in a division with all Canadians (Colorado), but Minnesota joins Detroit, Boston joins all the NY teams, Columbus joins Pittsburgh and Buffalo to battle it out for Appalachia, who cares about the damn Flyers, the Northeast is entirely Canadian (saving them on some travel/customs/exchange/etc.) and since you're seeing every team in your house every year, everyone gets an extra sell out when the likes of Crosby, Ovechkin, etc. are in town.
The best is when you schedule a road trip, and all four teams in your division are going to play all four teams in another division over the course of a week and change, and there's some really interesting data to talk about in real time with stuff like "and the Kings took 7 of a possible 8 points (or 10 of 12 if they wise up and go 3-2-1-0 but that's a dead horse to be kicked elsewhere) on their Northeast swing to lead the Pacific teams during their annual visit to Ontario and Quebec."
That's pretty much the only way I think an expansion would be productive....but that's just stream of consciousness typing so I'm sure it could be tweaked some to be even more interesting.
Edit for NFL-style schedule strength determination...
with the 8div/4team thing you can do this:
2x16 = 32 home/road interconference
4x3 = 12 divisional
2x12 = 24 intraconference nondivisional for 68 total
+14 games as a bonus home/away pair with any team that finished in the same place as you did the year before (to be arbitrarily decided for the first year of the 8/4 alignment). so...if you won your division, you play an extra pair of games against the other 7 division winners. this would theoretically compress the standings so that strong teams from the previous year have a tougher schedule and weaker teams have a marginally easier one, such that you wouldn't necessarily have spreads between the division winners and losers as wide as what you'd see if everything were perfectly balanced, and there would be a very high chance of rivalries from the previous year's playoffs being extended into more regular season contests---as well as going from potentially 0 stanley cup finals rematches in the following regular season (how this is possible is beyond me) to either 2 or 4.
edit (2)
so rather than decide the bonus home/away pair in the first year arbitrarily, you just use the 4div-3conf-2nonconf plan in the first year and then switch to the second scheme in year 2.
Last edited by charles; April 1st, 2008 at 07:42 AM.
charles, you realize the nhl came up with a new schedule matrix right?
before you say the scheduling is bad lets just wait to try this new one out
ya i do--i was just trying to see how it would work with 32 teams.
the new one is 6 divisional (24), 4 intraconf (40), and 1 interconf (15) for 79, +3 "at-large" interconf games, and the only interesting way to assign those is parallel to previous season's divisional finish.
that at least gets everyone playing everyone else every year, which gets every star in every tv market at least once, which is good, but i think it'd be even better if every star visited every building every year.
Last edited by charles; April 1st, 2008 at 08:42 AM.
the most interesting thing about what he said was about the NHL and ESPN. If NHL2Nite comes back, I will have died and gone to heaven. Bucci and Melrose=the most entertaining sports recap show ever! This would be great for the game as well since people will finally see the games since people actually watch ESPN unline that ****in channel they are on now
"After just their first season in their sparkling new Downtown home, the Kansas City Kings ended forty-plus years of franchise futility by winning the 2011 Stanley Cup Playoffs and the historic trophy that comes with it. The thrilling seven-game series, which saw the KC Kings battle back from an 0-3 deficit to best the powerhouse Pittsburgh Penguins, was among the more memorable NHL playoff contests.
"KC Kings front office frontman Luc Robitaille thanked Kings faithful after hoisting the cup. "The players and everyone in the organization -- the trainers, Phil, Tim, Dean, everybody -- want to thank the fans in Kansas City for their incredible support. We couldn't have done it without you."
"After just their first season in their sparkling new Downtown home, the Kansas City Kings ended forty-plus years of franchise futility by winning the 2011 Stanley Cup Playoffs and the historic trophy that comes with it. The thrilling seven-game series, which saw the KC Kings battle back from an 0-3 deficit to best the powerhouse Pittsburgh Penguins, was among the more memorable NHL playoff contests.
"KC Kings front office frontman Luc Robitaille thanked Kings faithful after hoisting the cup. "The players and everyone in the organization -- the trainers, Phil, Tim, Dean, everybody -- want to thank the fans in Kansas City for their incredible support. We couldn't have done it without you."
charles
