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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Dean mentions that the Kings have never developed their own goalie.
How about taking a look at the Kings ability to draft and develop defensemen?
It is pretty appalling.
When
Dean mentions that the Kings have never developed their own goalie.
How about taking a look at the Kings ability to draft and develop defensemen?
It is pretty appalling.
When one considers that the only current NHL defensemen drafted by the Kings in the last decade are: Lubomir Visnovsky, Joe Corvo, Fran Kaberle, Denis Grebeshkov, and Andres Lilja, it is shocking. Going back 15 years, you add Zhitnik, Breg and Timonen. (Timonen never played for the Kings, sadly)
Sydor and Corvo are the only current NHL defenseman from North America, drafted since 1990!! Nothing against Euros, many are the best players in the world. Let's hope Hickey changes this abysmal record.
Please see hockey data base for the Kings' draft history. See the lack of quality defensemen going back 18 years!
__________________ Don't fire Crawford YET. If we fire him, we may get a coach that could elevate this team to 20th overall in the league...and we'd be screwed in the draft again. Let's take full advantage of Crawford's ability to get us Stamkos!!
I really don't care if they are Euro's or North American. Why don't you go back a little farther and see Larry Murphy, Jay Wells, Mark Hardy, and Rob Blake? Why does it have to be the last 18 years? If you're gonna paint a picture, then paint the whole picture.
Let's assume for a minute that teams, on average, over several years, will draft positions that fall into the same ratios as most rosters, so, out of 20 draft picks, there will probably be 12 forwards, 6 defensemen, and 2 goalies. Let's also say that there have been an average of 10 rounds per draft for the last couple decades. So that's guessing about 6 forwards, 3 defensemen, and 1 goalie every year.
Let's say you're maintaining AHL and ECHL affiliates, so there are actually around 20 defensemen in your system at any given time, with only the top few actually making it. If you only draft 3 defensemen a year, and your results are entirely average, the chances of any of those 3 eventually displacing not only the 13-14 you have in AHL/ECHL but one of the NHL roster defensemen is really low.
Furthermore, among 30 NHL teams, there are roughly 180-210 jobs for defensemen (obviously). So if at any given time, a team boasts among its former draft picks 6-7 defensemen that are regular NHL skaters, I'd characterize that franchise as average.
Are the Kings below average? Probably. Is it dramatic? Not really.
Dean mentions that the Kings have never developed their own goalie.
How about taking a look at the Kings ability to draft and develop defensemen?
It is pretty appalling.
When one considers that the only current NHL defensemen drafted by the Kings in the last decade are: Lubomir Visnovsky, Joe Corvo, Fran Kaberle, Denis Grebeshkov, and Andres Lilja, it is shocking. Going back 15 years, you add Zhitnik, Breg and Timonen. (Timonen never played for the Kings, sadly)
Sydor and Corvo are the only current NHL defenseman from North America, drafted since 1990!! Nothing against Euros, many are the best players in the world. Let's hope Hickey changes this abysmal record.
Please see hockey data base for the Kings' draft history. See the lack of quality defensemen going back 18 years!
look at any team over that same period and for sure the Kings have done as well or as poor as everybody else.
It's not like all the other teams pick HOFers every time and the Kings miss.
Plus why only 18 years, oh yea if it was more it wouldn't meet the criteria of the BULLSH** your spewing.
Plus during many of those years the Kings were flush with good defensemen.
BS argument by an uninformed tool, bent soley on bashing something he knows noting about.
NUH-UH!!! Look at how awesome THIS team has done:
1990
66 D Stewart Malgunas
87 D Tony Burns
108 D Claude Barthe
129 D Jason York
150 D Wes McCauley
192 D Travis Tucker
213 D Brett Larson
1991
32 D Jamie Pushor
98 D Dmitri Motkov
142 D Igor Malykhin
1992
183 D Justin Krall
238 D Dan McGillis
1993
22 D Anders Eriksson
48 D Jon Coleman
97 D John Jakopin
100 D Benoit Larose
178 D Yuri Yuresko
204 D Vitezslav Skuta
1994
23 D Yan Golubovsky
75 D Sean Gillam
127 D Doug Battaglia
1995 26 D Maxim Kuznetsov LOL! A first round pick!
125 D Chad Wilchynski
1996
26 D Jesse Wallin
1997
129 D John Wikstrom
239 D Greg Willers
1998
25 D Jiri Fischer
198 D Jeremy Goetzinger
226 D David Petrasek
1999
None
2000
29 D Niklas Kronwall
128 D Alexander Seluyanov
196 D Paul Ballantyne
2001
129 D Miroslav Blatak
258 D Dmitry Bykov
288
D Francois Senez
2002
131 D Johan Berggren
229 D Derek Meech
260 D Pierre-Olivier Beaulieu
291 D Jonathan Ericsson
2003
132 D Kyle Quincey
2004
151 D Sergei Kolosov
290 D Nils Backstrom
2005
19 D Jakub Kindl
151 D Jeff May
175 D Juho Mielonen
214 D Bretton Stamler
2006
212 D Logan Pyett
ONE North American defensemen in the NHL drafted in the last 18 years (Jesse Wallin, ISN'T THAT IMPRESSIVE?). If only the Kings could draft as well as the Red Wings...
__________________ Bandit, You're an idiot. - 236nOT
Bandit is pretty bright. - Maddogg420, 15 minutes later
Last edited by Bandit; January 31st, 2008 at 01:15 PM.
Kings 'Drafting Record' of Defensemen Past 18 Years 
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