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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by Sleestak
I don't get the hate for anyone on your own team. The only King I ever hated was Fuhr, because we gave up too much
I don't get the hate for anyone on your own team. The only King I ever hated was Fuhr, because we gave up too much to get him, and he sucked ass while he was here.
Hate Cammy? For what? Some **** you read in the paper that he was supposed to have said?
Good lord, it doesn't take much to set some of you off.
Unless DL can rape some other team, why trade Cammy? With this season under his belt, his asking price has had to have come way down, so treat him with a little love and see if he can turn things around.
Being a free agent is your first of maybe 1-3 paydays in your entire career, so why hate the guy for trying to get some dough out of it?
Go hate a terrorist. Leave the Kings alone.
Ii dont hate Cammy, i would love nothing more for him to show he is a 35-40 goal scorer again and earn the $$ that those guys get. With that said, if the dude doesnt produce and still wants those big bucks then ship him off.
How pissed would you be if he got his 5-6 mil he was asking for now that hes had the season hes had? I know he was injured, but he has certainly shown for the time being he is not one of those players.
I don't get the hate for anyone on your own team. The only King I ever hated was Fuhr, because we gave up too much to get him, and he sucked ass while he was here.
Hate Cammy? For what? Some **** you read in the paper that he was supposed to have said?
Good lord, it doesn't take much to set some of you off.
Unless DL can rape some other team, why trade Cammy? With this season under his belt, his asking price has had to have come way down, so treat him with a little love and see if he can turn things around.
Being a free agent is your first of maybe 1-3 paydays in your entire career, so why hate the guy for trying to get some dough out of it?
Go hate a terrorist. Leave the Kings alone.
I don't get why people can't advocate trading him without others calling them haters. He is the most logical choice to go. We have other forwards with more rounded games and his offense won't be missed that much.
Lombardi is never going to pay him the way he wants to be paid, so unless he signs a very reasonable extension this summer (he probably won't) he should be moved at the earliest opportunity. Meaning if Lombardi gets a good offer for him and we have to include the Dallas' 1st in the deal to get a top 4 defenseman, Cammalleri is outta here.
Weber sounds like a pipe dream to me. It would probably take an offer of Frolov plus something else just to get Poile to pick up the phone.
I was thinking more along the lines of 1st overall (Stamkos) and Cammalleri for Shea Weber and Florida's 1st (or Nashville's 1st), which would turn into either Doughty, Bogosian, or Schenn.
I was thinking more along the lines of 1st overall (Stamkos) and Cammalleri for Shea Weber and Florida's 1st (or Nashville's 1st), which would turn into either Doughty, Bogosian, or Schenn.
That would be interesting, but it would be overpayment on our part.
Still you would have to think about it I guess.
EDIT: I thought about that deal some more. If Nashville included Radulov in the trade, it's a deal.
Last edited by KINGS17; March 31st, 2008 at 07:46 PM.
Because the cup isn't rewarded to the team with the most draft picks, if it was like that then the Kings would be the 2008 Stanely Cup champs.
Who says he has to be moved for just picks?
And your logic makes no sense; if you seriously think the Kings are making a cup run next season you are delusional.
As a GM if you have a player who could maybe bring you a decent return who is not likely to re-sign for a reasonable price you move him before you loose him. See Hossa, Campbell, Richards etc.
And your logic makes no sense; if you seriously think the Kings are making a cup run next season you are delusional.
As a GM if you have a player who could maybe bring you a decent return who is not likely to re-sign for a reasonable price you move him before you loose him. See Hossa, Campbell, Richards etc.
In all fairness, teams can turn things around. The Kings will get much better before they get any worse. There are holes on the team, but if a few of the free agents really start picking things up, and if Visnovsky recovers from an off year, then the Kings have the potential to do quite well.
And if Cammalleri IS an impact player next season (if we don't trade him at the draft), then I'd be all for keeping him. If he can be a difference maker on the team during an integral year, I don't care if he walks or not after that... and I've been one of the biggest proponents of trading Cammalleri.
The point is, you have to allow leeway for circumstances to keep a player. There are very few reasons to keep Cammalleri, in my opinion, but if he's going to be one of "the guys" and the Kings are playoff/cup bound, then he absolutely should stay.
I may be wrong, but it seems to me that Cammy only scores when the game is over, which is why he scored so many points last season, because most of them came when the Kings were way down and the opposing team basically could care less about giving up one goal. Basic point, Cammy is a player who I have never seen play excellent when the game is on the line. I dont think hes the type of player to tie the game or score the game winning goal for the Kings. Trade him at the draft day!
As a GM if you have a player who could maybe bring you a decent return who is not likely to re-sign for a reasonable price you move him before you loose him. See Hossa, Campbell, Richards etc.
As you've said "decent return" or, the return has to be considered. There is "cost" associated with the loss of the asset. For example, moving a top-6 player that you have locked-up for a season at a seemingly reasonable salary for a pick or picks at the draft probably doesn't make a lot of sense, whereas, getting a pick or picks for the same player at the deadline, particularly if your team is out of contention, probably does make sense...
edit: Kings Pawn makes a good point about if the team is in contention then you have to at least consider holding onto Cammalleri even if it works out that he walks for nothing.
Last edited by dano; March 31st, 2008 at 05:36 PM.
As you've said "decent return" or, the return has to be considered. There is "cost" associated with the loss of the asset. For example, moving a top-6 player that you have locked-up for a season at a seemingly reasonable salary for a pick or picks at the draft probably doesn't make a lot of sense, whereas, getting a pick or picks for the same player at the deadline, particularly if your team is out of contention, probably does make sense...
edit: Kings Pawn makes a good point about if the team is in contention then you have to at least consider holding onto Cammalleri even if it works out that he walks for nothing.
Although i agree, my original point is that if negotiations are going nowhere by trade deadline, even if the Kings are in contention next season (which is a HUGE if i think, but hope im wrong) and you can't come to an agreement to lock him up before he goes to free agency i still think you gotta do it unless you feel that he will end up reupping his contract. But i guess that all depends on what kind of year Cammy is having and where the Kings are at next trade deadline.
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