If Stamkos turns out to be like..

[photomike]

If Stamkos turns out to be like a Spezza or St. Louis and Doughty becomes another Pronger, Stevens or Phanuef type of player, who would you rather have?

[Len-Det64]

I'd rather not have another thread debating the pro's or con's of drafting Stamkos, Schenn or Doughty. There are plenty of other threads debating these issues.

[Hockey53]

Seeing that the Kings need a young second line center behind Kopitar and also need to show Kings fans that they are serious about winning,I would chose Stamkos. What DL may do is use Dallas's 1st rd. pick and the second round picks to move up in the top 5 to hopefully grab Doughty or Schenn with that pick.

[photomike]

Originally Posted by Hockey53

Seeing that the Kings need a young second line center behind Kopitar and also need to show Kings fans that they are serious about winning,I would chose Stamkos. What DL may do is use Dallas's 1st rd. pick and the second round picks to move up in the top 5 to hopefully grab Doughty or Schenn with that pick.

that would take a miracle of sorts, but would be beautiful.. I really love Phanuef's style and having something close to that would be great in those conference games with the Ducks, Sharks etc... Johnson I don't picture ever becoming as nasty as most of LGKer's are envisioning. But getting Army the hell of the 2nd unit would be huge.

[Hockey53]

Of course that's if the Kings get the 1st overall pick. If the Kings end up with the 2nd or 3rd pick I could see DL trading down a couple of spots thinking he still could get Doughty or Schenn and also get a couple more prospects and/or picks for the 2009 Draft .

[KingFanMGM]

Here is TSN's mid-season Top 10 player rankings:

1. STEVEN STAMKOS

DATAFILE
Pos: Centre
Shoots: R
Height: 6'
Weight: 183 lbs.
Born: 02/07/1990
Team: Sarnia (OHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: Starting to look like a lower case Sidney Crosby � dynamic speed and skill and does everything at top speed. Stamkos was also ranked No. 1 in TSN's preseason survey of scouts.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Sarnia (OHL) 47 43 38 81 64
2006-2007 Sarnia (OHL) 63 42 50 92 56
2007 Playoffs Sarnia (OHL) 4 3 3 6 0


2. DREW DOUGHTY

DATAFILE
Pos: Defenceman
Shoots: R
Height: 6'
Weight: 213 lbs.
Born: 12/08/1989
Team: Guelph (OHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: A solid all-around defender who likes to jump up into the rush and make things happen offensively. Doughty was ranked No. 2 in TSN's preseason survery of scouts.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Guelph (OHL) 44 11 33 44 58
2006-2007 Guelph (OHL) 67 21 53 74 76
2007 Playoffs Guelph (OHL) 4 2 3 5 8


3. ALEX PIETRANGELO

DATAFILE
Pos: Defenceman
Shoots: R
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 211 lbs.
Born: 01/18/1990
Team: Niagara (OHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: A bigger version of Doughty who has been a little inconsistent and perhaps not as naturally offensive. Pietrangelo was ranked No. 3 in TSN's preseason survey of scouts.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Niagara (OHL) 48 11 28 39 71
2006-2007 Niagara (OHL) 59 7 45 52 45
2007 Playoffs Niagara (OHL) 4 0 0 0 8


4. ZACH BOGOSIAN

DATAFILE
Pos: Defenceman
Shoots: R
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 199 lbs.
Born: 7/15/1990
Team: Peterborough (OHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: A great skater and gritty to boot, he's charging hard up the rankings.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Peterborough (OHL) 49 10 44 54 59
2006-2007 Peterborough 67 7 26 33 63
2007 Playoffs Peterborough - - - - -


5. KYLE BEACH

DATAFILE
Pos: Centre
Shoots: R
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 203 lbs.
Born: 01/13/1990
Team: Everett (WHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: Is he a diamond in the rough who just needs polishing or does he have serious character flaws? We'll see. Beach was No. 8 on TSN's preseason poll.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Everett (WHL) 55 20 30 55 173
2006-2007 Everett (WHL) 65 29 32 61 196
2007 Playoffs Everett (WHL) 11 5 6 11 19


6. MIKKEL BOEDKER

DATAFILE
Pos: Left Wing
Shoots: L
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 196 lbs.
Born: 12/16/1989
Team: Kitchener (OHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: A fast and skilled offensive forward from Denmark who has adjusted quickly and well to the OHL.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Kitchener (OHL) 47 21 30 51 10
2006-2007 Frolunda Jr. 39 19 30 49 14
2007 Playoffs Frolunda Jr. N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

7. COLIN WILSON

DATAFILE
Pos: Centre
Shoots: L
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 215 lbs.
Born: 10/02/1989
Team: Boston U. (NCAA)
Bob McKenzie Says: A solid all-around American centre with Canadian Olympic bloodlines (his father is Carey Wilson). He was No. 6 in TSN's preseason survery of scouts.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Boston (NCAA) 26 11 18 29 12
2006-2007 NTDP U-18 56 30 44 74 53


8. LUKE SCHENN

DATAFILE
Pos: Defenceman
Shoots: R
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 212 lbs.
Born: 11/2/1989
Team: Kelowna (WHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: A big, strong shutdown-type defensive defenceman. Schenn was No. 5 in the preseason poll.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Kelowna (WHL) 43 5 18 23 84
2006-2007 Kelowna (WHL) 72 2 27 29 139


9. CODY HODGSON

DATAFILE
Pos: Centre
Shoots: R
Height: 6'
Weight: 185 lbs.
Born: 2/18/1990
Team: Brampton (OHL)
Bob McKenzie Says: A minor hockey teammate of Steve Stamkos and Michael Del Zotto, Hodgson is a smart and skilled offensive forward.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 Brampton (OHL) 54 34 34 68 30
2006-2007 Brampton 63 23 23 46 24
2007 Playoffs Brampton 4 1 3 4 0


10. NIKITA FILATOV

DATAFILE
Pos: Left Wing
Shoots: R
Height: 6'
Weight: 170 lbs.
Born: 05/25/1990
Team: CSKA Moskva (2)
Bob McKenzie: Extremely talented, but inconsistent and there's always the Russian factor at work. He was No. 9 in the preseason rankings.
Year Team GP G A Pts Pim
2007-2008 CSKA Moskva N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2006-2007 CSKA Moskva N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2007 Playoffs CSKA Moskva N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A

I would be happy with any of the three Stamkos, Doughty, or Schenn, but would expect that we take Stamkos if drafting in the #1 overall position. I can also see us grouping our picks to trade up for Schenn. He is a solid physical shutdown defensemen and he also has been Hickey's defense partner for the past couple of Canadian juniors events. As a pairing, they were considered Team Canada's best defensive unit at the World Junior Championships even out-performing Doughty and Alzner. Although, I thought Doughty had a hell of a tounament.

[SFKingshomer]

O'sullivan is doing good as 2nd line center and we have enough young talented forwards,it's time to draft physical defenseman.I think we should trade down if we get #2 and draft Schenn,he's a lot better than Doughty defensively.

[BeerMan]

here's to another season of inconsistencies. as the 1st overall pick, our beloved Deano chooses Pietrangelo....

[sweatypickle]

Bogosian!!!!

[toboggan]

Originally Posted by photomike

If Stamkos turns out to be like a Spezza or St. Louis and Doughty becomes another Pronger, Stevens or Phanuef type of player, who would you rather have?

Doughty's style is not like a Pronger, Stevens or Phaneuf. Doesn't own the size or shown the grit of those guys either.

[Dave]

Originally posted by SFKingshomer
O'sullivan is doing good as 2nd line center and we have enough young talented forwards,it's time to draft physical defenseman.I think we should trade down if we get #2 and draft Schenn,he's a lot better than Doughty defensively.

O'Sully is better on wing. They need a 1a/1b type center. Stamkos would be ideal if they get the #1 pick. If they don't they'll have to trade for one.

The kings need a big defensive dman and Schenn would be perfect.

The question is, will either of those players be ready to make the jump into the NHL?

[JJ289]

Originally Posted by photomike

If Stamkos turns out to be like a Spezza or St. Louis and Doughty becomes another Pronger, Stevens or Phanuef type of player, who would you rather have?

A Scott Stevens type of player is exactly what this franchise needs. A player that will set the tone physically and do whatever it takes to win. As far as Doughty is concerned, I've heard some great things about him. Elite skater, great Hockey sense, great passing and of lots offensive ability. He's listed at 6'0" 213 lbs. Kinda reminds me of Stevens, but does he play an impressive physical game? Or is he more like a Niedermayer, Leetch, Lidstrom or Zubov? The lack of physicality on the blueline is a real problem in all levels of the organization. I like what I've heard about Schenn; a physically dominating, shut down D man. But I haven't seen him play other than a few shifts at the World Juniors.

Edit: Sorry. Didn't see the two previous posts. So, he doesn't play the physical style of a Stevens. Is he so good that DL cannot pass him over? With Lubo, Harrold, Preissing and Hickey (Johnson too) there are plenty of "puck moving" defensemen. Stamkos and Schenn it is! Cmon Deano, get another top 5 pick!