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based on the history of the draft lottery, even though the last placed team has a 48% chance of taking the first overall pick in the draft, the third worst

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Old February 29th, 2008, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default If the Kings don't finish last please don't finish 29th in the league

based on the history of the draft lottery, even though the last placed team has a 48% chance of taking the first overall pick in the draft, the third worst team has actually won the lottery just as many times. here are the lottery results since its inception in 1995. Teams in bold are teams that picked first for the first time in team history.


"WINNERS" OF THE PREVIOUS DRAFT LOTTERIES
1995 - Los Angeles (was 7th, moved to 3rd; Ottawa retained 1st overall pick)
1996 - Ottawa (retained 1st overall pick)
1997 - Boston (retained 1st overall pick)
1998 - Tampa Bay (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
1999 - Chicago (was 8th, moved to 4th; Tampa Bay retained 1st overall pick)
2000 - NY Islanders (was 5th, moved to 1st)
2001 - Atlanta (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
2002 - Florida (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
2003 - Florida (was 4th, moved to 1st
2004 - Washington (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
2005 - Pittsburgh (all 30 teams had a chance at #1)
2006 - St. Louis (retained 1st overall pick)
2007 - Chicago (was 5th, moved to 1st)

as you can see, based on past results the kings should place either last or 28th for the best shot at the #1 overall pick.

if history has any thing to say about it, however, the number one pick will go to either Tampa or Florida, since they currently sit in 29th and 27th respectively, and the #1 pick has gone to a florida team 4 times out of 12.

thanks to NHLSCAP.com - NHL Entry Draft information
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Old February 29th, 2008, 09:11 PM   #2
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I kind of hope the Kings wind up with the 2nd pick.
That way, there will be no one complaining and wanting DL's head for not picking Stamkos.
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please get 29 if we don't finish last. the odds are over 100 drafts second will pick first 20 times or so, and since that has yet to happen once second place is due for the one slot.
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This is retarded. You might as well flip a coin 13 times and come to the conclusion that one side is way better than the other based on your results. I'll go with odds over superstition.
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If you're going to completely ignore statistics and hope for the 28th spot to get the #1 pick, why don't you completely ignore statistics and embrace "the law of averages" which clearly points to the 29th spot getting the #1 pick this year?
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I like cheese.
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I like cheese.
What kind of cheese do you like?

How about a little red Leicester?
How are you on Tilsit?
Does Caerphilly please you?
Bel Paese?
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Stilton?
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Gruyere?
Norweigan Jarlsburg, per chance?
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If you're going to completely ignore statistics and hope for the 28th spot to get the #1 pick, why don't you completely ignore statistics and embrace "the law of averages" which clearly points to the 29th spot getting the #1 pick this year?
well i was going to include the slot machine theory but then i figured i would leave that up to you.
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Statistics class.........you needz one
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Easily one of the most ridiculous things I've read in a while.

It is called MATH people. Lotteries have no memory of past lotteries. The odds are exactly as they are stated and nothing that has happened prior affects this year's results.

Nothing is "due", there aren't jinxed spots or lucky spots, it is just math.

Besides all that, to use a sample size of 13 to dictate past results is equally insane. Exactly like simonsez points out, if you flip a coin 12 times and it lands on heads 9, do you really think over 10000 flips there will be 7500 heads and 2500 tails?
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Even if we are last in the standings we will lose the lottery. Mourn it, accept it, love it.
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Some things LGK will say if we finish last and don't retain the pick:

- It is fixed!
- Teams have retained it 5 times and lost it 7 times WE WERE DUE.
- We are soooo unlucky!
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