If Jody Shelley Is Only Worth a 6th Round Pick, Have We Overvalued Our Players?

[CBGB]

Last night San Jose added some beef with the acquisition of Columbus' long time tough guy Jody Shelley - For a 6th round draft pick.

Considering Anaheim gave up a 2nd for Parros, does this mean that teams know this is a deep draft and are unlikely to shell out this season?

Floppa has apparently narrowed his team selection down to the Rags, Flyers and Dead Things.

If he winds up with the Dead Things or the Rags, that's one LESS team for Blake to be dealt to.

Does this mean Willsie is only worth a 6th or 7th or a coupon for Knotts Berry Farm?

Will Nagy only fetch a 2nd or a 2nd tier prospect?

Will Thornton even be worth a 5th?

Are Stuart and Modry even worth a 2nd?

27 days and counting.

[TONGA]

tick tock

[Jim Jones]

Oh man. I can't believe how long its been. I've really missed the longass thread title with all words capitalized from CBGB.

Glad to have you back, longass thread title with all words capitalized.

[backofthenet]

Shelley is a 21 (EDIT. Typo. meant 31) year old that has played about 30 games this season.

He is on the ice for only 4 mins a game and has no goals, no assist. He is a minus 5 for this season.

Parros is 28. Played in 44 games. Plays over 5 mins and has contributed with 4 points and is a plus player.

George has more to offer in an all around game. Still, I was shocked at the 2nd for him.

The newer NHL just does not have a lot of room for a Shelly type of player. I would imangine that come playoff time, he will sit an awful lot.

[Len-Det64]

Originally Posted by CBGB

Last night San Jose added some beef with the acquisition of Columbus' long time tough guy Jody Shelley - For a 6th round draft pick.

Considering Anaheim gave up a 2nd for Parros, does this mean that teams know this is a deep draft and are unlikely to shell out this season?

Floppa has apparently narrowed his team selection down to the Rags, Flyers and Dead Things.

If he winds up with the Dead Things or the Rags, that's one LESS team for Blake to be dealt to.

Does this mean Willsie is only worth a 6th or 7th or a coupon for Knotts Berry Farm?

Will Nagy only fetch a 2nd or a 2nd tier prospect?

Will Thornton even be worth a 5th?

Are Stuart and Modry even worth a 2nd?

27 days and counting.

Brian Burke over valued Parros otherwise don't try and compare skilled players with enforcers.

[Hipcheck]

Just to correct-Shelly is 31 years old.

Quite franklly a 6th rd pick seems about right considering Shelly will probably only dress in a handful of the Sharks remaining games and probably wont see any ice time at all if the Sharks get past the 2nd rd.

Shelly is a Rent a Cop no more no less who is ultimately one dimensional.

Using a little played 30+ year one dimensonal goon with no skills as a starting point for trade value compared to Kings players is ill conceived considering the Kings bargaining chips have a much higher skill set and will be much more sought after then Jody Shelly type skill sets.

That said-Willsie is only worth about a 5th or 6th rder IMO.

[Leatherface]

Originally Posted by CBGB

Does this mean Willsie is only worth a 6th or 7th or a coupon for Knotts Berry Farm?

Will Nagy only fetch a 2nd or a 2nd tier prospect?

Will Thornton even be worth a 5th?

Are Stuart and Modry even worth a 2nd?

what would lead you to think that any of those players are worth more than that at any given time?

[CUP4LA]

When referring to a draft as deep, I believe what is being referred to is really just the first or second rounds.

[spjon25]

Hey Willsie is worth a family pack of tickets to Knotts and dinner for 4 at the Chicken Dinner restaurant

[charles]

I think we tend to undervalue these grinders that only skate 5 minutes put put up big PIM. The 5 minutes that that guy sits in the box or the 2 he sits on a coincidental pair means one of your better players is still on the ice for regular duty, assuming that someone would have had to take on the enforcer's role. We look at these guys' +/- and PIM and ice time and all that, but do we ever look at the improvement in everyone else's productivity when these guys are the ones serving the obligatory time? Announcers will frequently talk about "that's a good trade" when they see a goon skating off for a couple minutes after goading a comparatively skilled opponent into taking a retaliation...not sure why that mindset doesn't carry over into people valuing these guys on their teams' rosters.

[evilgeek]

In all fairness, the 2nd rounder was for the 'stache alone. George was a throw-in on the deal.