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Originally Posted by USCKingsFan31 I hate Armstrong and even I can tell you he is worth more to this team than the 5th he'd have fetched. How can you

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Old February 26th, 2008, 03:31 PM   #19
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I hate Armstrong and even I can tell you he is worth more to this team than the 5th he'd have fetched.
How can you hate Army when you don't know him
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Old February 26th, 2008, 03:32 PM   #20
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Consider Nagy may not play again this year and he has been injury prone all year. Just the extra piece I want for my playoff team in the physical playoffs.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #21
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There's a reason people on message boards are called "Arm chair GM's" and there's a reason GM's have their jobs.
Correct! Now, whats the reason for so many Armchair GMs gettin their thongs in a bunch when you call them what they are??

Taco Bell, anyone??
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You may be right, but who brought those guys in? Also, Chris Simon, Hal Gill, Wade Belak, and Chad Kilger all suck too, but they got moved.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 03:34 PM   #23
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The money isn't a factor because it didn't prevent the Kings from getting someone better. These are the only people willing to sign for a 30th place team. You thought it was tough trying to get FA's to sign here last year - wait until THIS off-season!

DL's got to build this team from the draft on out. There is no one of any significant worth who will sign here as a FA until there's a playoff team, built from within, in place.
Agreed which is why a major/right trade at the draft will be crutial! Our true assetts (at least expendible assetts) are Cammi, some of the prospects and pick's in this years draft. From my perspective, DL needs to look to shore up this team through a great trade and forget the "UFA" day fiesta.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 03:36 PM   #24
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How can you hate Army when you don't know him
Hate is a bit too strong a word...

Just hate that he is consistently mis-used on the 2nd line, at first WAY TOO MUCH by Murray and now still a bit by Crawford.

I guess I don't really hate HIM... He goes out there and gives 100% and earns the ice time... I just get mad that he takes up precious minutes from more talented players, especially on the power play. You could argue these other players should "try harder" I suppose... but then I'm more interested in scoring goals and winning games then rewarding who gets to practice first and leaves last. This isn't middle school anymore.
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Who brought them in for just the right amount of time so they are on their way out?
But wasn't the point of signing them, and putting up with their pitiful play on the Kings, to get something for them at the deadline? I don't see now how anyone can say signing Nagy, Thornton, Willsie, or Blake worked out well for the Kings.

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Anyways, to your initial point, right, thats 4 guys, not every UFA on each of those teams. We moved Modry after all.
Moving Modry was easy, he was the only signing of Lombardi's that played well this season.

I just think it is funny that people defend Lombardi for not moving those guys because of how bad they are when Lombardi was the one who brought them in in the first place! Shouldn't he then be taken to task for signing them in the first place or for giving Blake a no trade clause and then wanting to trade him?
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I agree with you that we can't blame DL about this. Blake ****ed him and the team by not agreeing to go to SJ, DET, or anywhere else. Nagy, who probably would have been our 2nd most valuable asset, was hurt so he couldn't deal him anywhere. Now we wait until the draft.
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Good to know there are people who actually use their brain in this forum before typing...
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Old February 26th, 2008, 03:50 PM   #28
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Hate is a bit too strong a word...

Just hate that he is consistently mis-used on the 2nd line, at first WAY TOO MUCH by Murray and now still a bit by Crawford.

I guess I don't really hate HIM... He goes out there and gives 100% and earns the ice time... I just get mad that he takes up precious minutes from more talented players, especially on the power play. You could argue these other players should "try harder" I suppose... but then I'm more interested in scoring goals and winning games then rewarding who gets to practice first and leaves last. This isn't middle school anymore.
This seems to be the only problem most people have with him and as I've told a few before if that's the problem then blame Crow not Army, all he's doing is busting his ass and getting rewarded for it

Other than the unnecessary Army bashing i agree with your original post
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But wasn't the point of signing them, and putting up with their pitiful play on the Kings, to get something for them at the deadline? I don't see now how anyone can say signing Nagy, Thornton, Willsie, or Blake worked out well for the Kings.

Moving Modry was easy, he was the only signing of Lombardi's that played well this season.

I just think it is funny that people defend Lombardi for not moving those guys because of how bad they are when Lombardi was the one who brought them in in the first place! Shouldn't he then be taken to task for signing them in the first place or for giving Blake a no trade clause and then wanting to trade him?
No, the "point" of signing each of them was...

Blake - Veteran leadership for the kids and sway Jack to join the team early... CHECK.

Thornton - Veteran leadership... ehhh, wasn't great.

Willsie - Just a body to fill the roster. Not every signing can be exciting!

Nagy - Either fit in well here and re-sign longer term OR trade at the deadline. I don't think Lombardi anticipated Nagy's injury handcuffing option B!

Unlike you (and many others around here), I don't use hindsight to point out the flaws in signings. Some moves work like a charm and some don't.
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