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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. This was a question I found myself asking myself all day. Obviously, it was a pretty lackluster day for a team that EVERYONE knew would be sellers...and this was
This was a question I found myself asking myself all day. Obviously, it was a pretty lackluster day for a team that EVERYONE knew would be sellers...and this was in January! Regardless, the deadline has passed. With all the action by Pacific division teams, where will that put the Kings in their rocky road to recovery.
Dallas: The Stars address their largest problem. They needed help up front, and they will get that with Brad Richards. The Stars have great playoff performer. I'd like to remind you that last year's playoff exit was a result of this team not having enough offense. Their average goals against was 1.52, while their goals for was an abysmal 1.41.
San Jose: The Sharks make a huge splash in getting the best d-man available at the deadline. Brian Campbell. If he resigns in SJ (which i think is a huge possibility), we will have yet another team in our division that has improved. Minor deal sees Nabakov get a back up with Brian Boucher.
Anaheim: I think everyone would agree that getting Scott Neidermeyer and Teemu Selanne back is much better than any trade deadline acquisition. This team has only gotten better since raising the cup last spring. Very minor trade for them today with the kings...and they still hold on to that golden ticket in the EDM #1.
Phoenix: With the acquisition of Ilya Bryzgalov via waivers earlier in the season, this team already has improved drastically. At the deadline, they obtain Al Montoya and the other Hossa. All of a sudden, Phoenix has depth in goal! Note to DL: Its much better to have two #1 goaltenders battle for the top spot than two #2 goalies battle for the top spot.
So, the Kings get a detroit's 2nd and 4th, Anaheim's 7th, and a 3rd from Philadelphia.
The Kings did not get any better with the trade deadline. In comparison to our division, we have gotten a bit worse. Every team (save Anaheim...which didnt need to deal) made a deal that will help them not only now, but in the long run. (well, the verdict is still out on SJ. We will see if Campbell resigns there). Things aren't getting better for us anytime soon. Next year is only going to get harder. Cheers. I'm already rooting for Tavares now.
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Many of the posters here talk about DL's Black Hole. You know. When the team finishes out of the playoffs and the team's first round draft pick is not in the top five.
You know what DL's Brown Hole is? It is when the Kings continually trade NHL players for picks that will not be ready for the NHL for another three years...AND no prospects are ready to step up to the NHL. We fill the gaps in the roster with high risk UFAs who need to prove something (e.g. Nagy). This ensures a carppy team next year since the gaps in the roster are filled by streaky, coming off injury players. Then next trade deadline, we begin the cycle again.
edit: removed comment about noses.
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Last edited by ParrotDude; February 26th, 2008 at 08:41 PM.
On paper last year with our acquisitions, we were suppose to be a better team and move up in the rankings. Nope!!! Don't let these names fool you, sometimes it just doesn't work out! Al Montoya may be garbage for phoneix and get traded to Detroit and look like the second coming of Patrick Roy. It is what these teams do with these players....all we can do is sit and watch!
Also the withe Rags acquisitions last year of Gomez and Drury added to the already allstar line up, shouldn't they be a top seed? LA can be a great team onces clicking, we started to see some clicking as of late and the thing that bugged me the most at the trade deadline was to see Stewie go because he just started to shot on all cylinders. Good luck to him though! Win a cup and come back to LA Stu!!!!
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On paper last year with our acquisitions, we were suppose to be a better team and move up in the rankings. Nope!!! Don't let these names fool you, sometimes it just doesn't work out! Al Montoya may be garbage for phoneix and get traded to Detroit and look like the second coming of Patrick Roy. It is what these teams do with these players....all we can do is sit and watch!
Also the withe Rags acquisitions last year of Gomez and Drury added to the already allstar line up, shouldn't they be a top seed? LA can be a great team onces clicking, we started to see some clicking as of late and the thing that bugged me the most at the trade deadline was to see Stewie go because he just started to shot on all cylinders. Good luck to him though! Win a cup and come back to LA Stu!!!!
My main point was, we didn't even aquire any names. Atleast with Montoya, he might be a year or two off. Our 'names' are just numbers now. And these names are going to be 17 or 18 years old, and wont be ready to step up.
Every team in the Pacific division has bettered themselves over the past year. I do not put the kings in that category. Sure, i know the big 5 were a bust. Only Stuart and Calder have been playing decent, and the former is now a dead thing. Every other team has gotten better while remaining competitive. We are the lone exception. Bring on Tavares.
You know what DL's Brown Hole is? It is when the Kings continually trade NHL players for picks that will not be ready for the NHL for another three years...AND no prospects are ready to step up to the NHL.
What exactly was Lombardi supposed to do today? Willsie has trouble playing regularly for the worst team in the league. Do you really see teams lining up to give up valuable assets for him? Thornton had a no-trade clause (which was freaking stupid but even if he didn't, he's another one who has trouble playing on a regular basis for the worst team in the league), Blake had a no-trade clause. The only players Lombardi had that he could have gotten valuable assets for are guys that he's trying to build the team around. Should he have traded guys like Frolov or Johnson just to do something?
I've seen people complaining about Lombardi just adding draft picks and saying things like "How many draft picks do you need?". The sheer number of draft picks Lombardi has this year gives him options. 10 picks in the 1st 4 rounds will give Lombardi the chance to combine them and trade for either better picks or players.
My main point was, we didn't even aquire any names. Atleast with Montoya, he might be a year or two off. Our 'names' are just numbers now. And these names are going to be 17 or 18 years old, and wont be ready to step up.
Every team in the Pacific division has bettered themselves over the past year. I do not put the kings in that category. Sure, i know the big 5 were a bust. Only Stuart and Calder have been playing decent, and the former is now a dead thing. Every other team has gotten better while remaining competitive. We are the lone exception. Bring on Tavares.
Invisible Karma for you. We are pretty far from the rest of the teams in our division right now. It makes me think that next year won't be different than this year. It's been a couple of seasons. We should have locked up a team and started working on chemistry. By training a bunch of new kids and giving them more development time, we are stretching out this painful rebuild with no guarantee of having a good team. It's a gamble.
XM 204: "The biggest losers on this trade deadline day were Dean Lombardi & the LA KINGS"
What do they know? LGKers know more about hockey than anyone!
DL probably did the best he could with what he had. The problem was that everyone he should have moved at this time were people he messed up by bringing over in the first place. I think DL deserves some of the blame for the first mess up that led to today's mess up. We seriously need some big off season aquisitions if we plan on doing better than the bottom 5 next season. A top 6, veteran forward would be a step in the right direction.
Tavares is the key, I will be accepting of one more year of suckage if Tavares is in our future and I pray this is the plan. Next year Dean does not sign one ufa at all. We have enough talent that needs to gel by playing together
frolov-kopitar-brown
Cammi-Osullivan-purcell
Boyle-Hendzus-Calder ( one more year right?)
Ivanas-Moulson-whoever
Dougherty ( or Schenn probably a stretch they head to AHL)- JJ
Hickey-Vis
Pressing-Harrold
Petiot
Keep JLB and Clouts With Bernier to the Monarchs.
This is our team one more year let them gel and we are definitely in the Tavares sweepstakes. I would love to make the playoffs and take the next step forward, but I would much rather have Tavares and have the potential with this team to win cups after 2 more years.
How bad did the Kings really do? 
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