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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by Bogey Man
Al Iafrate had the hardest shot at the NHL skills competition with a slapshot of 105.2 MPH in 1993!
Yeah but you put a composite
Al Iafrate had the hardest shot at the NHL skills competition with a slapshot of 105.2 MPH in 1993!
Yeah but you put a composite stick in anyone's hands with a high flex and there is a boost in speed and strength in a slap shot. Even I can tell when I switch between a composite stick and a Sherwood. You can't use 1 player's record to justify it. It is rare a player has the time to get off a shot at 100+ MPH in a game as opposed to a skills comp.
Composite Hockey Sticks Information
"Composite hockey sticks are much more expensive than wooden ones, and can cost up to $250. The real attraction of the composite hockey sticks tends to be in the play. Because of the additional flexibility, composite hockey sticks can be bent against the ice when a shot is made, producing an extra sling-shot effect for a faster and harder shot."
I used to be for regulating goaltending equipment but when you look at other things like the fact newer composite sticks actually make shots fast and harder, the goaltending gear has to adjust to the other new technology in the league. What's good about this panel is that they will take that into consideration to make sure the pads are trimmed down to a point where a goalie won't take and damage.
Yea, but just as hockey sticks have gotten better with new technology, so have the pads. The length of leg pads is bad enough, but the chest protectors and shoulder pads (see Giguere) are beyond ridiculous.
Yea, but just as hockey sticks have gotten better with new technology, so have the pads. The length of leg pads is bad enough, but the chest protectors and shoulder pads (see Giguere) are beyond ridiculous.
I agree, that's why I said this panel is a good idea because they are taking the new technology of sticks and such into consideration to make pads that are regulated but will be adequate protection for a goaltender.
I agree, that's why I said this panel is a good idea because they are taking the new technology of sticks and such into consideration to make pads that are regulated but will be adequate protection for a goaltender.
True, I'm sure they can find a good fit in the middle.
^ What about the chest protector and shoulder pads?
Not sure if you know but just FYI the goaltenders chest pad is a single unit of chest/thorax protection combined with shoulder, collarbone, and arm protection.
To me, the biggest differences between goalies of today and those of the 80's/90's is the size difference and the skillset.
Mike Vernon was an average size goalie at 5'7". Giguere is 6'1". That is going to make a HUGE difference as to how a goalie looks in net and what size pads he's gonna wear. Ive gone back and forth in multiple threads and no one has ever acknowledged that fact. I think so many fans here are 'old school' and got themselves conditioned to the size of the goalies back then so now seeing these behemoths in net makes everyone fly into a tizzy and complain about size of pads when really it's the guys getting bigger. Hell, there was a thread a couple weeks ago where someone was saying that Ersberg was SMALL at 5'11". Now, consider that you shouldn't put 32" legpads on a guy that should be wearing 36". The blockers and catchgloves have been regulated and are smaller than before, the legpads are now set at 11" wide (which is at least an inch smaller than anything that Vernon, Irbe, Vanbiesbrouck, Richter, choose your goalie wore). Naturally a chestpad makes any shaped guy look overly husky. Honestly reviewing different pictures I don't see all that much difference in the amount of bulk when you compare body to body rather than "look he was little and look he's huge". Another obvious difference is the cut of the jersey. I think there are a few guys who wear a size or two larger than they should and maybe that is "extra assistance" that could be reviewed.
Standup and flail vs. butterfly and angles is a whole other novel of comparison.
Last edited by Unruely35; April 30th, 2008 at 06:31 PM.
To me, the biggest differences between goalies of today and those of the 80's/90's is the size difference and the skillset.
Mike Vernon was an average size goalie at 5'7". Giguere is 6'1". That is going to make a HUGE difference as to how a goalie looks in net and what size pads he's gonna wear. Ive gone back and forth in multiple threads and no one has ever acknowledged that fact. I think so many fans here are 'old school' and got themselves conditioned to the size of the goalies back then so now seeing these behemoths in net makes everyone fly into a tizzy and complain about size of pads when really it's the guys getting bigger. Hell, there was a thread a couple weeks ago where someone was saying that Ersberg was SMALL at 5'11". Now, consider that you shouldn't put 32" legpads on a guy that should be wearing 36". The blockers and catchgloves have been regulated and are smaller than before, the legpads are now set at 11" wide (which is at least an inch smaller than anything that Vernon, Irbe, Vanbiesbrouck, Richter, choose your goalie wore). Naturally a chestpad makes any shaped guy look overly husky. Honestly reviewing different pictures I don't see all that much difference in the amount of bulk when you compare body to body rather than "look he was little and look he's huge". Another obvious difference is the cut of the jersey. I think there are a few guys who wear a size or two larger than they should and maybe that is "extra assistance" that could be reviewed.
Ed Belfour as a rookie in 1989
Ed Belfour as a bum in 2006
That looks like a substantial difference in size to my untrained eyes.
The size of the pads has little to do with protection. There are plastics that could be used to protect as well as 11" x 38" of pillows the guys wear now That is almost 6 square feet of padding on the lower half plus another 6 square feet (at least) for the top half. A goal has 24 square feet and over half is taken up without the goalie having to move. With the fact that the guys are getting bigger and the advances in equipment in the last 100 years, I think the NHL can find a way to keep everyone safe and let the players score if they really want to.
Last edited by davndea; April 30th, 2008 at 07:10 PM.
