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About This Page: This is a discussion on LA Kings Talk within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by Leatherface
Whoops, 11th, you are correct. For some reason I always peg him at #16 unless Im referencing something directly.
hey, I dont disagree that Bernier was
Whoops, 11th, you are correct. For some reason I always peg him at #16 unless Im referencing something directly.
hey, I dont disagree that Bernier was indeed the correct choice, however, the next coming of Roy, he was never pegged to be, or frankly is likely to be.
Interwebz quandary...
start Bernier now and he busts - LGK response: we should never have rushed him
start Bernier now and he takes - LGK response: Dean Lombardi FTW!
coddle Bernier and he busts - LGK response: OMGxxorz, it's Jamie Storr part 2... wish we could have found this out sooner
coddle Bernier and he takes (in two years with an equally unappealing looking young roster) - LGK response: I TOLD YOU SO!
not everyone is going to be completely happy with the decision they make. if Bernier has got it going on between the ears, then he's ready... and i choose the road less traveled by.
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start Bernier now and he busts - LGK response: we should never have rushed him
start Bernier now and he takes - LGK response: Dean Lombardi FTW!
coddle Bernier and he busts - LGK response: OMGxxorz, it's Jamie Storr part 2... wish we could have found this out sooner
coddle Bernier and he takes (in two years with an equally unappealing looking young roster) - LGK response: I TOLD YOU SO!
not everyone is going to be completely happy with the decision they make. if Bernier has got it going on between the ears, then he's ready... and i choose the road less traveled by.
Kings: Labarbera = #1, Ersberg = #1A
Monarchs: Bernier = #1, Quick = #2, Zatkoff #2A (occassional conditioning assignments in Ontario
Ontario: Taylor = #1, Random goalie = #2.
I think that Manchester will carry three goaltenders at the beginning of the year and Quick/Zatkoff will battle for the backup job in practise. Bernier will get called up at some point in the year and will stay for good. I feel bad for Danny Taylor - he has done everything that has been asked of him and belongs in the AHL next year but he is likely ticketed for the ECHL.
I think Storr was more affected by the Courtnall thing than anything else.
I want Bernier starting with the Kings in Game 1, especially if the Kings do nothing to add "veteran" leadership on the D. Let all the kids grow together.
btw, its not like the veteran leadership will be around in March anyway.
Schneider for a 2009 4th round and a 2010 2nd round pick - February 24, 2009
Kubina for a 2009 3rd round pick - February 25, 2009
Just because no one else has done it, And I like comparing his numbers. Hopefully this will give you all some more confidence in Bernier. Now, before you all get ready to flame me. I'm not trying to hype Bernier up to be the next Roy or Broduer. I just think he deserves credit for putting up comparable, if not better #'s in the same league as Marc-Andre Fleury.
here are MAF's regular season jr. #'s
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2003-04 Cape Breton QMJHL 10 8 1 1 606 20 297 0 1.98 .933
2002-03 Cape Breton QMJHL 51 17 24 6 2889 162 1801 2 3.36 .910
2001-02 Cape Breton QMJHL 55 26 14 8 3043 141 1662 2 2.78 .915
2000-01 Cape Breton QMJHL 35 12 13 2 1705 115 1006 0 4.05 .886
And of course the fun part, Bernier's play off numbers in comparison to other great goalies.
MAF's QMJHL playoff stats
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2003-04 Cape Breton QMJHL 4 1 3 - 251 13 114 0 3.10 .886
2002-03 Cape Breton QMJHL 4 0 4 - 228 17 161 0 4.47 .894
2001-02 Cape Breton QMJHL 16 9 7 - 1003 55 548 0 3.29 .900
2000-01 Cape Breton QMJHL 2 0 1 - 32 4 21 0 7.50 .810
Bernier's
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2007-08 Lewiston QMJHL 6 2 4 - 348 17 207 0 2.93 .918
2006-07 Lewiston QMJHL 17 16 1 - 1024 40 495 1 2.34 .919
2005-06 Lewiston QMJHL 6 2 4 - 358 17 197 1 2.84 .914
2004-05 Lewiston QMJHL 1 0 0 - 20 0 9 0 0.00 1.000
And just because well, they are comparable though I'm sure I'll get flamed for it, Roberto Luongo's QMJHL playoff stats
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
1998-99 Acadie-Bathurst QMJHL 23 16 6 - 1400 64 - 0 2.74 -
1997-98 Val-d'Or QMJHL 17 14 3 - 1019 37 - 2 2.17 -
1996-97 Val-d'Or QMJHL 13 8 5 - 777 44 - 0 3.39 -
1995-96 Val-d'Or QMJHL 3 0 1 - 68 5 - 0 4.41 -
Now, I'm not gonna go through all those teams and try to compare them or try to compare the level of jr hockey played when Luongo was in jr vs when Bernier was. But you've still gotta give credit where credit is due. Obviously the 06-07 Maineacs were the best team bernier played in front of with David Perron and Kris Letang, was that really that good of a team or was Bernier really that oustanding ?
here are MAF's regular season jr. #'s
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2003-04 Cape Breton QMJHL 10 8 1 1 606 20 297 0 1.98 .933
2002-03 Cape Breton QMJHL 51 17 24 6 2889 162 1801 2 3.36 .910
2001-02 Cape Breton QMJHL 55 26 14 8 3043 141 1662 2 2.78 .915
2000-01 Cape Breton QMJHL 35 12 13 2 1705 115 1006 0 4.05 .886
Berniers...
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2007-08 Lewiston QMJHL 34 18 15 - 2024 92 1001 0 2.73 .908
2006-07 Lewiston QMJHL 37 26 10 - 2185 94 990 2 2.58 .905
2005-06 Lewiston QMJHL 54 27 26 7 3240 146 1586 2 2.70 .908
2004-05 Lewiston QMJHL 23 7 12 3 1353 67 739 0 2.97 .909
And of course the fun part, Bernier's play off numbers in comparison to other great goalies.
MAF's QMJHL playoff stats
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2003-04 Cape Breton QMJHL 4 1 3 - 251 13 114 0 3.10 .886
2002-03 Cape Breton QMJHL 4 0 4 - 228 17 161 0 4.47 .894
2001-02 Cape Breton QMJHL 16 9 7 - 1003 55 548 0 3.29 .900
2000-01 Cape Breton QMJHL 2 0 1 - 32 4 21 0 7.50 .810
Bernier's
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
2007-08 Lewiston QMJHL 6 2 4 - 348 17 207 0 2.93 .918
2006-07 Lewiston QMJHL 17 16 1 - 1024 40 495 1 2.34 .919
2005-06 Lewiston QMJHL 6 2 4 - 358 17 197 1 2.84 .914
2004-05 Lewiston QMJHL 1 0 0 - 20 0 9 0 0.00 1.000
And just because well, they are comparable though I'm sure I'll get flamed for it, Roberto Luongo's QMJHL playoff stats
Year Team League GP W L T Min GA SA SO GAA Sv%
1998-99 Acadie-Bathurst QMJHL 23 16 6 - 1400 64 - 0 2.74 -
1997-98 Val-d'Or QMJHL 17 14 3 - 1019 37 - 2 2.17 -
1996-97 Val-d'Or QMJHL 13 8 5 - 777 44 - 0 3.39 -
1995-96 Val-d'Or QMJHL 3 0 1 - 68 5 - 0 4.41 -
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Hell - all he has to do is outplay Labarbera and Ersberg in camp. He's already outplayed Labarbera once and it isn't like Ersberg is anything more than Freddie Chabot Jr. I'll be surprised if Bernier DOESN'T make the team.
Huh? You're joking, right? Was anyone even watching when Ersberg was playing last season? Why is there absolutely no love for this guy? He was stellar in front of a horrid defense. He had a .927 Save % for crying out loud. He's got a freakin velcro chest and great positioning. Rebounds are few and far between with this guy.
As far as I'm concerned Ersberg is our starter unless Bernier plays lights out for all of the preseason and for a good month into the regular season. He really should be in the AHL first. Labarabara is a capable backup and that's it.
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