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Originally Posted by charles This is precisely why a new lottery system would makes sense. (i'm going to keep posting this link instead of cut & pasting the huge post

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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:27 PM   #199
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This is precisely why a new lottery system would makes sense.


(i'm going to keep posting this link instead of cut & pasting the huge post into a thread here.)
Where the mediocre get richer and the poor get poorer. That's a great way to help teams that suck. I'd be so happy to have the Kings draft 13th overall after watching them lose so much all season long.
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Where the mediocre get richer and the poor get poorer. That's a great way to help teams that suck. I'd be so happy to have the Kings draft 13th overall after watching them lose so much all season long.

It's inappropriate to apply that logic to the season that just happened, because all strategies leading up to the trade deadline would have been different. There wouldn't be any sellers willing to tank their own picks' value in order to acquire more picks. OBVIOUSLY I wouldn't want to see the Kings picking 13th, but I would like to see an end to the tank vs. win debate forever IN THE FUTURE when hopefully the Kings will, at worst, be a bubble team.
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It's inappropriate to apply that logic to the season that just happened, because all strategies leading up to the trade deadline would have been different. There wouldn't be any sellers willing to tank their own picks' value in order to acquire more picks. OBVIOUSLY I wouldn't want to see the Kings picking 13th, but I would like to see an end to the tank vs. win debate forever IN THE FUTURE when hopefully the Kings will, at worst, be a bubble team.
But ultimately, there IS a worst team. The Kings only traded away Stuart and Aubin at the deadline, were they major sellers?

And then, the teams performing badly has to trade THEIR best assets to move up and hope to "just miss the playoffs." So you have teams needing to trade away their better assets anyways, which screws them up more.

It's a very stupid idea.
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But ultimately, there IS a worst team. The Kings only traded away Stuart and Aubin at the deadline, were they major sellers?

And then, the teams performing badly has to trade THEIR best assets to move up and hope to "just miss the playoffs." So you have teams needing to trade away their better assets anyways, which screws them up more.

It's a very stupid idea.

The rest of the rounds would be as they are now, but the lottery would work in such a way as to reward teams for winning even if that doesn't yield a playoff berth. Punish tankers. That's the point. Rounds 2-7? Sure, build your weak franchise through having marginally higher picks than other teams. But, for the ultimate prize in the draft, in terms of deciding who among the 14 bad teams gets to choose first, there's something wrong with a team sucking the most getting the best odds at the #1. It angers the hockey gods. The hockey gods would smile upon a conference 10th place team busting their asses to move up to #9 and barely come up short instead of selling off the talent and accepting their fate as losers.

The idea proposed in another thread of having the non-playoff team with the best record in its last ten games getting best odds at #1 was really clever, as it also rewards teams that try to win no matter what, but, it's entirely possible that you could be mathematically eliminated so early that you'd just have your tanking phase earlier and then try to go on a run over the last 10. Flipping the odds means you're always rewarded for trying to win.
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I do not think that Kopitar is a "franchise player." #1 center? Yes.

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Anyone else notice that Stamkos didn't look remotely pleased by the announcement?
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Anyone else notice that Stamkos didn't look remotely pleased by the announcement?
Yes I posted that in the other thread before I could read through 12 pages of this one.

I though I was just projecting my disappointment on him.

He seemed flat until they spoke to him and he gave the standard 'Id be honored " line about playing w/Tampa Bay.

I think I'm mostly bummed by the fact that TB got the first pick and they just won the cup what 4 years ago?
They also had 1st pick recently as well where as the kings . . . .
well we all know the story . . . 40 year rebuild . . . . .
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