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Originally Posted by dgrycan Keep dreaming, skippy. 720p transfers that are nothing but rentals? That's like bragging about nailing the third or forth ugliest chick in a room full of

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Old July 30th, 2007, 11:01 AM   #109
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Keep dreaming, skippy. 720p transfers that are nothing but rentals? That's like bragging about nailing the third or forth ugliest chick in a room full of them.

Digital downloading WILL be the future when streams can handle lossless audio codecs at HDMI-rated bitrates, as well as true 1080p transfers. Right now, they can't even come close.
This would be true if the world populace was dominated by techno-geeks, but it's not so who's dreaming now?

This argument of who will win the war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is as relevant as who's prettier Ruth Buzzy or Phylis Diller. Don't get me wrong supporters of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, the quality of both is superior to any other type of physical or downloadable media. You give society too much credit. Just look at what passes for entertainment and I'll leave it at that.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 11:17 AM   #110
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This would be true if the world populace was dominated by techno-geeks, but it's not so who's dreaming now?

This argument of who will win the war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is as relevant as who's prettier Ruth Buzzy or Phylis Diller. Don't get me wrong supporters of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, the quality of both is superior to any other type of physical or downloadable media. You give society too much credit. Just look at what passes for entertainment and I'll leave it at that.
By dgrycan saying stuff like lossless audio and HDMI being important to downloadable content makes me more convinced that HD-DVD/Blu-ray is niche and always will be. A lot more than half of HDTVs are 720p especially the smaller ones.

Hell, my in-laws already do the downloadable/streaming video thing every night. It is not the best quality but it works and they are entertained every night.

BTW - I watched a 720p movie last night on my 720p TV. The picture was really good. I liked the movie too. yes I downloaded it. :pardon:
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This would be true if the world populace was dominated by techno-geeks, but it's not so who's dreaming now?

This argument of who will win the war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is as relevant as who's prettier Ruth Buzzy or Phylis Diller. Don't get me wrong supporters of Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, the quality of both is superior to any other type of physical or downloadable media. You give society too much credit. Just look at what passes for entertainment and I'll leave it at that.
Well, it will take many years, but people will eventually come around. Remember, HDTV is still in its young stages. As it develops, people will see the difference between good and bad HD and will adapt.

The whole rental idea will be the biggest downfall in current download models. People still like physical media. The problem is that the people who own the content don't want a buy-and-own type download system - the want a pay-as-you-play kind of model. I just don't think people are going to adopt that very quickly.
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Here's some interesting news. "300" sold twice as many Blu-ray discs as HD DVD last week despite the fact that the HD DVD version has more features on it.

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/..._by_2_to_1/848

Also, the head of Universal needs a reality check. Unfiltered, maybe you can shed some more light.

http://news.filefront.com/universal-...ar-continuing/
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Did anyone mention that Target has elected to go only w/ Blu-Ray?

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2163316,00.asp
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Did anyone mention that Target has elected to go only w/ Blu-Ray?

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2163316,00.asp
Check post #104 in this thread.
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Also, the head of Universal needs a reality check. Unfiltered, maybe you can shed some more light.

http://news.filefront.com/universal-...ar-continuing/
He's a douche. Everyone in Home Video knows better. He also made it known this week that Uni is receiving monetary incentives from Toshiba to continue it's HD-DVD exclusivity. (This is what a lot of us had suggested.)
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He's a douche. Everyone in Home Video knows better. He also made it known this week that Uni is receiving monetary incentives from Toshiba to continue it's HD-DVD exclusivity. (This is what a lot of us had suggested.)
It almost sounds to me like he is running out of ways to convince people that HD DVD is doing better or will do better in the long run, so now he's forced to say that the war is a good thing. Whatever Toshiba is paying, it's got to get to a point where that amount doesn't make up for the amount they're losing from not putting their movies out on BD. I'm really hoping the holidays put a nail in the coffin for HD.
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Wow, this sucks and completely unexpected. Why the hell are they doing this now?

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...3-19015486.htm
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It's early enough in the war when cash can speak volumes. $50 million for Paramount, and $100 for Dreamworks - that's what Toshiba/Microsoft had to pony up.

What did they accomplish? Evening the field, and making the potential for high-def media to become nothing more than the next laser-disc even more likely.
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Uh-oh bluray fans....

Sub $200 HD-DVD players this Christmas?!?

Toshiba A2 is already in the $230s at Amazon.

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Uh-oh bluray fans....

Sub $200 HD-DVD players this Christmas?!?

Toshiba A2 is already in the $230s at Amazon.

Amazon.com: Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD Player: Electronics
This won't be much of a factor for the main consumer this year. They're going to see Transformers and Shrek on one side of the aisle, then they're going to see Spiderman and Pirates on the other side, and then they'll do the math and figure out that it's just not worth buying either or both.

Seriously, how pissed is the average family movie watcher going to be knowing that Ratatoille and Cars don't play on the same machine as Shrek The Third and Bourne Ultimatum?

Microsoft has accomplished what it was seeking all along - to extend the format war and risk the adoption of this next-gen media.
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They just f***ed both formats.
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The average family movie watcher will buy all those movies on DVD this year.
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Exactly . . . and even longer will they continue to support their DVD player, which, amazingly, Toshiba is okay with as a founding member of the DVD forum. Can't win the fight? Then blow it up so no one wins. A great strategy indeed.
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Exactly . . . and even longer will they continue to support their DVD player, which, amazingly, Toshiba is okay with as a founding member of the DVD forum. Can't win the fight? Then blow it up so no one wins. A great strategy indeed.
Exactly what I was saying. Morans.
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