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About This Page: This is a discussion on Computers/Tech/Photo within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by dgrycan
Let's take the top grossing movies of all time (adjusted for inflation) and analyze their potential as the two formats exist by my count.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
Blu-ray
Also, I'm pretty sure Fox and Disney surpass Universal by themselves.
Actually, we're also forgetting about TV shows. I'm pretty sure this is how the stations stand.
NBC - HD DVD (Same as Universal)
ABC - Blu-ray (Same as Disney)
Fox - Blu-ray (Obvious)
CBS - Neutral (Same as Paramount)
HBO - Neutral (Same as Warner)
__________________ I have to return some videotapes.
Last edited by NastiMarvasti; June 27th, 2007 at 08:43 PM.
Actually, we're also forgetting about TV shows. I'm pretty sure this is how the stations stand.
NBC - HD DVD (Same as Universal)
ABC - Blu-ray (Same as Disney)
Fox - Blu-ray (Obvious)
CBS - Neutral (Same as Paramount)
HBO - Neutral (Same as Warner)
You can't always look at TV shows like that, as not all shows on any particular network are produced by them. (Ex. Scrubs in on NBC but yet is a Buena Vista/Touchstone release. My Name Is Earl is on NBC as well, but is produced by 20th Century Fox. House is a Universal release but airs on Fox.)
Last edited by Unfiltered; June 27th, 2007 at 09:24 PM.
Not only have I not bought either a Blu Ray or HDDVD player, I've also stopped buying standard DVD's because I'm waiting a format to be decided.
This should have just been worked out in a meeting a couple of years ago and then all these companies would be raking in the cash.
Yup. I totally agree. In fact, there were quite a few DVD titles I held back on purchasing last year waiting on their HD counterpart to be released. (Both Pirates movies come to mind.) I didn't pick up my PS3 until this past February, so I was forward thinking back then.
There was even talk at one point of using the HD DVD name (for recognition sake) and using Blu-ray's larger capacity, but both sides were so damn stubborn thinking "their" format was better than the other. Typical.
Honestly, had that happened, and HD DVD was the format chosen, then I would own an HD DVD player right now because there wouldn't be an exclusivity issue like there is right now.
Look, I don't blame others for waiting it out. I don't usually share my opinion on the matter unless I'm asked or in a forum like this. But if I am asked, and the person asking tells me he/she is ready to purchase, I tell them to do their own research.
At this time, I just don't see BR not coming out ahead. But i wouldn't recommend to anyone to buy a BR player based on my opinions. Look at the facts and make your own decision.
Last edited by Unfiltered; June 28th, 2007 at 12:03 AM.
This should have just been worked out in a meeting a couple of years ago and then all these companies would be raking in the cash.
While I agree with you that this should have been done and finished long before now, don't ignore the fact that money is the reason this is still existing all together. Sony versus Toshiba, and royalties for their formats.
One thing in this whole format war that really pisses me off is a group of the marketplace that, for one reason or another (past arrogance, whatever) just don't like Sony no matter what they do. HD-DVD could look piss poor, and Blu-ray could be the best thing since sliced bread, and people would still lobby around Sony.
What most fail to see is that, unlike the past, TOSHIBA is actually the "Sony" of this battle. They are the sole provider of the hardware for their format. They've designed and priced it now so no indepentent CE companies can even consider entering the marketplace. Meanwhile, Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer - all companies who are well entrenched in the Blu-ray marketplace.
You can't always look at TV shows like that, as not all shows on any particular network are produced by them. (Ex. Scrubs in on NBC but yet is a Buena Vista/Touchstone release. My Name Is Earl is on NBC as well, but is produced by 20th Century Fox. House is a Universal release but airs on Fox.)
Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. Just assuming. Thanks for clearing that up.
__________________ I have to return some videotapes.
While I agree with you that this should have been done and finished long before now, don't ignore the fact that money is the reason this is still existing all together. Sony versus Toshiba, and royalties for their formats.
One thing in this whole format war that really pisses me off is a group of the marketplace that, for one reason or another (past arrogance, whatever) just don't like Sony no matter what they do. HD-DVD could look piss poor, and Blu-ray could be the best thing since sliced bread, and people would still lobby around Sony.
What most fail to see is that, unlike the past, TOSHIBA is actually the "Sony" of this battle. They are the sole provider of the hardware for their format. They've designed and priced it now so no indepentent CE companies can even consider entering the marketplace. Meanwhile, Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer - all companies who are well entrenched in the Blu-ray marketplace.
Sony is the one with the vertical monopoly. From Movies to Video Games to the Player itself.
RCA, Miscrosoft and LG have produced HD-DVD players. Just like Panasonic, Pioneer and Samsung have Blu-ray players.
With that said. I bet the percentages of players is more diverse in the HD-DVD camp, since 155,000 or so Microsoft addons have been sold, than the Bluray (PS3).
I think you are being a bit facetious saying that HD-DVD looks piss poor also. The differences are minor and can anyone say Fifth Element?
I bought an HD-DVD player because of the price. Since I invested $400 in it I'll be cheering for it to win. But if it doesn't, then I'll know how the laser-disc owners of a few years ago feel.
It's not looking good for HD-DVD but one never knows, I thought I read an electronics magazine that said the Adult Entertainment industry chose HD-DVD and when they choose a format that's usually the format that wins...
This kind of crap annoys me. Most of your Average Joe consumers are pefectly content with DVD as the standard format, and I believe a good portion would rather stay with that as the stable standard, then be asked to invest in an offshoot technology that may, or more likely may not be the standard in another 3-4 years. Do both formats improve upon DVD technology? Absolutely. Do they change the technology to an appreciable enough degree to warrant customers going out and buying into it? I don't believe so.
I don't see this as VHS/Beta, I see this as the war of the "next-gen" placeholders for the next great technology on the market. The rise of mp3 and online media has already illustrated that optical media's days are numbered.
I bought an HD-DVD player because of the price. Since I invested $400 in it I'll be cheering for it to win. But if it doesn't, then I'll know how the laser-disc owners of a few years ago feel.
It's not looking good for HD-DVD but one never knows, I thought I read an electronics magazine that said the Adult Entertainment industry chose HD-DVD and when they choose a format that's usually the format that wins...
What I had read was that they didn't explicitly choose HD DVD but that what happened is there are only so many facilities in the world at the moment where they produce the disks and all the BluRAY facilities want to produce Disney disks and Disney refused to have their disks produced in a facility if that facility also produced any kind of adult disks. Meaning that porn was more locked out of BluRay facilities than they were choosing HDDVD.
Now maybe I got that confused but I think that is what I read.
What I had read was that they didn't explicitly choose HD DVD but that what happened is there are only so many facilities in the world at the moment where they produce the disks and all the BluRAY facilities want to produce Disney disks and Disney refused to have their disks produced in a facility if that facility also produced any kind of adult disks. Meaning that porn was more locked out of BluRay facilities than they were choosing HDDVD.
Now maybe I got that confused but I think that is what I read.
That's probably what that mag said, and it makes sense. Disney made the choice for them I guess.
NastiMarvasti
