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About This Page: This is a discussion on Computers/Tech/Photo within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Updated with a better theme.
Samy's had an ad on the back page of the LA Times sports section today. I created a very rudimentary jpeg with the highlights for the folks that frequent this thread.
40D
It's not a great lens, but the (extra) 75-300mm lens added to the 40D kit (body + 17-85mm) is a great deal. This 40D kit normally is 1599.99, so you score the "extra" lens for 100 bucks. They seem to go for $160-200 on ebay, so you can sell it to circumvent the purchase. Throw in the Samy's $100 gift card, and things get really interesting.
Rebel XTi
Costco has the same kit (minus the 17-300) for $699.99 (from $799.99 with $100 mail-in rebate). Again, the best bet seems to be Samy's deal. $849, sell the 17-300 (150-200) plus the $50 gift card, you now have a great entry level DSLR kit for around $719-759. Use that $50 gift card towards some other accessories.
Another kick ass thing about Samy's sale this weekend is the freebies: tripod, bag, and an instructional DVD with coupons. They're not going to be top notch anything, but for newbie, they're necessary.
If you're in market for a replacement or new to the hobby, this weekend looks like a good time to do it!
I'm not sure if these specials are online as well, so here is a link to their locations:
Good price on the D300 and that $149 55-200 VR lens is a steal (though it isn't their most recent version of their vibratio-reduction tech).
I'm still mulling over the new D300 body. For me (since I'd buy the battery holder/vertical grip), it will mean $2200 tax included. Save up twice again as much and it's the D3. On the other hand, the D200 I have is great, and I could really use a couple more fast lenses for it (particularly a wide-angle, like the 14-24 f/2.8G ED).
In any case, it'll be a couple months at least.
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Good price on the D300 and that $149 55-200 VR lens is a steal (though it isn't their most recent version of their vibratio-reduction tech).
I'm still mulling over the new D300 body. For me (since I'd buy the battery holder/vertical grip), it will mean $2200 tax included. Save up twice again as much and it's the D3. On the other hand, the D200 I have is great, and I could really use a couple more fast lenses for it (particularly a wide-angle, like the 14-24 f/2.8G ED).
In any case, it'll be a couple months at least.
I think that Samy's actually advertised the D300 at all surprised me, disclaimer or not.
But I feel ya' on the D300. Adding the grip, you're at $2273 with tax, $2100. In a few months, I bet you could get a D3 for 4 1/2 stacks. If I had an inventory of Nikon glass, and a D200 already, I'd wait it out also.
I just read a review this afternoon in the December issue of PCPhoto (on my flight between LAS and IND) about the D3. It's got the full-size sensor, so it's compatible with all Nikon lenses. But with the DX lenses, it automatically crops the image sensor down to DX size. When it does this, the effective megapixels drops to 5.1MP. That kinda sucks.
Because of that, I may just opt for the D300 and the battery-grip with another lens.
But then again, I only have one DX lens (the fisheye).
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Last edited by FlyBoeingJets; November 23rd, 2007 at 03:37 PM.
I just read a review this afternoon in the December issue of PCPhoto (on my flight between LAS and IND) about the D3. It's got the full-size sensor, so it's compatible with all Nikon lenses. But with the DX lenses, it automatically crops the image sensor down to DX size. When it does this, the effective megapixels drops to 5.1MP. That kinda sucks.
Because of that, I may just opt for the D300 and the battery-grip with another lens.
But then again, I only have one DX lens (the fisheye).
See? Full frames aren't what they're cracked up to be.
I got the 40D kit special from Samy's. I can't use the $100 gift card until December 1.
Fortunately, the Sandisk rebate runs until 1/5/2008. This will allow me to pickup (2) 4GB Extreme IIIs for about $5 for both after the rebate and gift card!
Last edited by Unfiltered; November 23rd, 2007 at 08:24 PM.
It looks like most of the stores got their first shipments of D300s on Tuesday or Wednesday--enough to cover waiting lists and allow for limited stock. What I have heard about it is positive so far. I will have mine next week sometime. Should have bought it local and I would have it already!
It looks like most of the stores got their first shipments of D300s on Tuesday or Wednesday--enough to cover waiting lists and allow for limited stock. What I have heard about it is positive so far. I will have mine next week sometime. Should have bought it local and I would have it already!
Of course, a full review (including pictures...especially low-light, high ISO ones) is requested.
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Of course, a full review (including pictures...especially low-light, high ISO ones) is requested.
Exactly my plan. The high ISO quality is what I am most curious about. I have been lusting after the D3, but the cost and the larger body put me off. Plus I shoot a lot of my kids hockey games and I like the reach I get with the 70-200 on the DX size sensor. When the DX size first came out I wished for a fullsize sensor, but now I have gotten used to the 1.5x factor, and the less glass (and cheaper glass)I have to carry. Shooting hockey I would love to get better results at high ISO. Can you imagine shooting at 6400 and getting quality images? Once we started seeing limitations of lens resolution in 10 and 12 megapixel images, I have to agree with Nikon that the next thing pros would demand would be light sensitivity and not more pixels. The D3 is probably the most interesting pro camera to come along in years--a journalist and wedding photographer's dream.
Unfortunately it's just a little too expensive for something I mostly use for a hobby.
My hope is that the D300 provides a decent compromise between cost and high ISO image quality. The 3" LCD, extra pixels, and live viewing are a bonus.
Exactly my plan. The high ISO quality is what I am most curious about. I have been lusting after the D3, but the cost and the larger body put me off. Plus I shoot a lot of my kids hockey games and I like the reach I get with the 70-200 on the DX size sensor. When the DX size first came out I wished for a fullsize sensor, but now I have gotten used to the 1.5x factor, and the less glass (and cheaper glass)I have to carry. Shooting hockey I would love to get better results at high ISO. Can you imagine shooting at 6400 and getting quality images? Once we started seeing limitations of lens resolution in 10 and 12 megapixel images, I have to agree with Nikon that the next thing pros would demand would be light sensitivity and not more pixels. The D3 is probably the most interesting pro camera to come along in years--a journalist and wedding photographer's dream.
Unfortunately it's just a little too expensive for something I mostly use for a hobby.
My hope is that the D300 provides a decent compromise between cost and high ISO image quality. The 3" LCD, extra pixels, and live viewing are a bonus.
I shot with a bit at Samy's on Friday. I dug it quite a bit, but stupid me didn't bring a CF card. (I went to buy not to try. )
I really liked the weight and feel of the body with the lens. (I checked it out with what I think it was a 18-135.)
I liked enough about it, but I couldn't justify the extra 500 bucks for the body, and then have to buy new glass. But if I had a D80/200, and a bunch of Nikon lenses, and you wanted to upgrade, I think it's a no-brainer.
While I'm thinking about it, I created a new Group Pool on Flickr for us LGK photogs. I'll update you all when I have a chance.
Last edited by Unfiltered; November 24th, 2007 at 11:05 PM.
Exactly my plan. The high ISO quality is what I am most curious about. I have been lusting after the D3, but the cost and the larger body put me off. Plus I shoot a lot of my kids hockey games and I like the reach I get with the 70-200 on the DX size sensor. When the DX size first came out I wished for a fullsize sensor, but now I have gotten used to the 1.5x factor, and the less glass (and cheaper glass)I have to carry. Shooting hockey I would love to get better results at high ISO. Can you imagine shooting at 6400 and getting quality images? Once we started seeing limitations of lens resolution in 10 and 12 megapixel images, I have to agree with Nikon that the next thing pros would demand would be light sensitivity and not more pixels. The D3 is probably the most interesting pro camera to come along in years--a journalist and wedding photographer's dream.
Unfortunately it's just a little too expensive for something I mostly use for a hobby.
My hope is that the D300 provides a decent compromise between cost and high ISO image quality. The 3" LCD, extra pixels, and live viewing are a bonus.
After reading this article (specifically the part about the guy's student who was so worried about noise that he was reluctant to jack the ISO of his camera up so he could attain the proper shutter speed for his focal length), I realized that I was far too worried about noise. I've also started thinking about buying the Noise Ninja plugin for PS.
With the picture being sharper due to the higher shutter speed, it will come out to be a MUCH better image (even before you run it through a noise-reduction plugin) than it would have without utilizing the higher ISO settings of your camera. Though having a camera with a CMOS sensor will be very nice (when I do manage to get one), I'm going to stop worrying about higher ISO noise for the time being.
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Last edited by FlyBoeingJets; November 25th, 2007 at 07:09 AM.
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