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About This Page: This is a discussion on Media, Movies and Music within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. I did a search for a thread about Ben Affleck's movie "Gone Baby Gone" but didn't get any results so I am posting this.
Saw it last night. It was
I had trouble understanding him at the start of the movie....just saying. Couldn't they sent child services to check up on Amanda and have them take her away Legally instead of stealing the child. I think it was a selfish act by Capt. Jack Doyle
I had trouble understanding him at the start of the movie....just saying. Couldn't they sent child services to check up on Amanda and have them take her away Legally instead of stealing the child. I think it was a selfish act by Capt. Jack Doyle
In a way it was but remember him saying that in all the years he has been an officer he has seen what happens in cases like this. The daughter turns out the same as mom.
All I'm saying is that in this single case Patrick should have looked the other way.
Det. Bressant did when Patrick blew the brains out of that child molester/murderer.
I had a debate with my brother who is a police offer about this and we both came to the same conclusion...you have to put the child with the mom. He brought up a good point, if we took children away from their parents for "poor parenting" almost half the kids would be removed. I mean she was an awful parent and ultimately her decisions led to the kidnapping in the first place but, you start going down a very slippery slope if you allow what Capt. Doyle did to stand.
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I had a debate with my brother who is a police offer about this and we both came to the same conclusion...you have to put the child with the mom. He brought up a good point, if we took children away from their parents for "poor parenting" almost half the kids would be removed. I mean she was an awful parent and ultimately her decisions led to the kidnapping in the first place but, you start going down a very slippery slope if you allow what Capt. Doyle did to stand.
I think that the majority of us, fortunetly, don't realize that the low life characters shown in the movie really do exist. There really are "people" who are exactly like the scum shown.
To subject a child to that is beyond criminal.
Again, I am speaking of the situation shown only in the movie. Any other circumstance I would have to judge by its own merits or lack there of.
I do have some real life experience to draw on. Years ago a friend of a friend had a child. We'll call her Mom X.
Now, Mom X was into drugs. So into drugs that she accidentally left a vial of locker room, I think it was called, laying around her place.
Well, the little kid found it and swallowed it. Luckily, they realized what happened soon enough to get the kid to a hospital and save his life.
Imagine if they were too late. And the kid died. Because he was still allowed to be with his mom.
Mom X did a year or two at Sybil Brand and was then released. She went in weighing about 120 pounds. She came out weighing about 160-180 and was more harder and rougher than when she went in.
Last edited by Winsomemore; May 4th, 2008 at 06:32 PM.
and who is going to make these decisions? Who is going to determine where these kids are going to be placed once a decision to steal them from their parents is made? If someone thinks I'm a bad dad is it ok for him to decide to steal my son? Give me a ****ing break man.
The world will always have scummy people. It's part of the natural order of things. Sucks that kids get caught up in it but to even think that something like this can actually work is asinine.
This movie did make me think about the decisions that are made in cases like this. There are often conflicts between what is the morally right thing to do and what is legally right. Unfortunately the choices we are forced to make sometimes have negative outcomes. But that doesn't mean it wasn't the right choice.
And getting DCFS involved most likely wouldn't have changed anything. In the majority of cases, DCFS opts to "keep the family unit intact." I can recall more than a couple of cases in which they placed a child back into the home only to wind up with the kid dying and everyone in an uproar over their decision.
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not to hijack your thread, but what do you guys think about patrick's decision to kill the childmolester/ murderer?
personally, i was for it. i just don't think a person like that deserves to live. i don't know. what do you guys think?
imo, he did the right thing. The guy was shown at the beginning of the movie with a rap sheet that said he was known for being a pedophile who prefers young boys.
Also, remember that earlier in the movie the big fat lady pulled a gun to prevent anybody from going upstairs. Obviously, she was hiding something.
Last edited by Winsomemore; May 5th, 2008 at 02:27 PM.