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About This Page: This is a discussion on Media, Movies and Music within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Saw this movie years ago when it first came out and loved it but watching it again recently it wasn't as funny nor as entertaining as I remembered.
Probably a
Saw this movie years ago when it first came out and loved it but watching it again recently it wasn't as funny nor as entertaining as I remembered.
Probably a case of when I watched it the first time the film was still semi new and this style and genre of the movie was still fresh. Years later its been done almost ad nauseum which takes some of the originality from it.
Still some redeeming moments though. Brad Pitt as stoner is almost worth the watch alone. And the scene with Walken and Hopper is really one of the greatest scenes in movie history in my opinion. This movie is to Pulp Fiction as what Mean Streets was to Taxi Driver in that you can see the stage being set for these later films with this film being a stepping stone for the latter. If you've never seen Mean Streets but like the Scorcesee style you should watch it in a historical context alone. Watch it again and you will see exactly what I mean with the stepping stone reference.
As for True Romance-funny how Slater's star has really fallen while others in this movie have really made it big. I wonder if Michael Rappaport has more money then Slater at this point.
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Saw this movie years ago when it first came out and loved it but watching it again recently it wasn't as funny nor as entertaining as I remembered.
Probably a case of when I watched it the first time the film was still semi new and this style and genre of the movie was still fresh. Years later its been done almost ad nauseum which takes some of the originality from it.
Still some redeeming moments though. Brad Pitt as stoner is almost worth the watch alone. And the scene with Walken and Hopper is really one of the greatest scenes in movie history in my opinion. This movie is to Pulp Fiction as what Mean Streets was to Taxi Driver in that you can see the stage being set for these later films with this film being a stepping stone for the latter. If you've never seen Mean Streets but like the Scorcesee style you should watch it in a historical context alone. Watch it again and you will see exactly what I mean with the stepping stone reference.
I love the movie last week as much as I did 14 years ago when I saw first it, if not more.
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As for True Romance-funny how Slater's star has really fallen while others in this movie have really made it big. I wonder if Michael Rappaport has more money then Slater at this point.
Slater may be doing cheese movies the past several years, but don't be fooled. The guy still commands 4-7 million a pic. I know it sounds crazy, but even Charlie Sheen made $5mill for Terminal Velocity in 1994. To give you an idea of where he was in his career at that point, TV was bookended by the awful Major League II (1994) and a string of cameos in a bunch of features you've never heard of. This was just after he whole Heidi Fleiss thing, so he wasn't an "A-Lister" anymore. (Looking back on that time frame of CS', he really didn't "come back" into Hollywood's good graces until he took over Spin City in 2002. (Man, with Two and a Half Men in it's 5th season, and 2 more after that, he has more than wedged his way back in.
After all of the crap Slater has done over the past 10 years or so, and a lot silly well-publicized shenanigans, he still was able to land the second male lead in the Anthony Hopkins-helmed Slipstream He had great turns in The Good Shepherd (which was great!) and Bobby. Don't get me wrong, most of the stuff he does these days, sans a few A-list studio pics, is STV or the like. But the guy probably has made more than Rappaport since 1993.
(Oh, and don't let the fact that I'm sleeping with him to have any biased bearing on my opinion. )
Last edited by Unfiltered; November 28th, 2007 at 10:19 AM.
I watched this movie again recently and I definitely still love the **** out of it.
And not just because of Sonny Chiba and Chow Yun Fat having "cameos".
That's another reason why I love the movie so much. It introduced Sonny Chiba to me. (BTW, how on Earth can anyone beat that new Chiba boxset for $11.05 via the DD sale?!?)
As far as Woo, I had ingested The Killer and Hard Boiled by the time 1993 rolled around quite a bit. I still have the severely worn-out VHS copies, one of which is Cantonese only with NO subtitles. Jeez, Richard, you were a youngin' back when TR came out. Did your mom let you watch it while you had your bottle? (For what it's worth, Stranglehold for the PS3 does NOT have an HD version of Hard Boiled on it. Just SD.)
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(BTW, how on Earth can anyone beat that new Chiba boxset for $11.05 via the DD sale?!?)
Dude... BCI has been releasing so much of his stuff in these affordable box sets. It's ****ing amazing and it fills me with glee. Now all we need is someone to release a decent set of the Street Fighter films (although my bootleg set is very nice).
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Jeez, Richard, you were a youngin' back when TR came out. Did your mom let you watch it while you had your bottle?
Sadly, I was not made aware of TR's awesomeness until it had been out for quite some time.
I love the movie last week as much as I did 14 years ago when I saw first it, if not more.
Slater may be doing cheese movies the past several years, but don't be fooled. The guy still commands 4-7 million a pic. I know it sounds crazy, but even Charlie Sheen made $5mill for Terminal Velocity in 1994. To give you an idea of where he was in his career at that point, TV was bookended by the awful Major League II (1994) and a string of cameos in a bunch of features you've never heard of. This was just after he whole Heidi Fleiss thing, so he wasn't an "A-Lister" anymore. (Looking back on that time frame of CS', he really didn't "come back" into Hollywood's good graces until he took over Spin City in 2002. (Man, with Two and a Half Men in it's 5th season, and 2 more after that, he has more than wedged his way back in.
After all of the crap Slater has done over the past 10 years or so, and a lot silly well-publicized shenanigans, he still was able to land the second male lead in the Anthony Hopkins-helmed Slipstream He had great turns in The Good Shepherd (which was great!) and Bobby. Don't get me wrong, most of the stuff he does these days, sans a few A-list studio pics, is STV or the like. But the guy probably has made more than Rappaport since 1993.
(Oh, and don't let the fact that I'm sleeping with him to have any biased bearing on my opinion. )
Don't talk **** about Major League II. That bitch is a classic...
Rules of Attraction and Silent Hill? Please. QT has written better films without Avary than Avary has without QT. They've both written some real crap (Deathproof and Killing Zoe), but QT has a couple that are better than anything Avary hopes to accomplish as a writer and/or director.
Speaking of Killing Zoe, what's the point of the butt****ing dealio in the bathroom?!? Between that and the Gimp scene in Pulp Fiction, I've gotta' think RA has some things he needs to act on.
Besides all of that, RA's draft of the script read like a digit-less monkey had typed it on a typewriter missing keys. (Sorry, mitchrock. No offense.)
Last edited by Unfiltered; November 29th, 2007 at 03:16 PM.
Rules of Attraction and Silent Hill? Please. QT has written better films without Avary than Avary has without QT. They've both written some real crap (Deathproof and Killing Zoe), but QT has a couple that are better than anything Avary hopes to accomplish as a writer and/or director.
Speaking of Killing Zoe, what's the point of the butt****ing dealio in the bathroom?!? Between that and the Gimp scene in Pulp Fiction, I've gotta' think RA has some things he needs to act on.
Besides all of that, RA's draft of the script read like a digit-less monkey had typed it on a typewriter missing keys. (Sorry, mitchrock. No offense.)
i liked Killing Zoe. i thought it was a perfect Euro-caper flick.
you gotta consider the source material for the other two... one is based on a video game (he's actually doing two more movies based on games) and the other, well aside from Less Than Zero, Bret Easton Ellis should've remained in print... i imagine i'll feel the same way about The Informers and Lunar Park.
outside of the stuff Tarantino wrote with Avary, i don't particularly care for at all. i think Quentin is a highest order hack... at least Roger has a comic book element to his style that i like.
i think the best thing QT ever wrote on his own (actually, maybe he just directed it) was an episode of E.R., which was fantastic.
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