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The Hill's Blog Briefing Room DeLay: 'Unless Obama Proves Me Wrong, He Is a Marxist' Former House Republican Leader Tom DeLay (Texas) called Barack Obama a "Marxist" on the Mike

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The Hill's Blog Briefing Room DeLay: 'Unless Obama Proves Me Wrong, He Is a Marxist'

Former House Republican Leader Tom DeLay (Texas) called Barack Obama a "Marxist" on the Mike Gallagher radio show Thursday.

Explaining that Obama clinching the Democratic nomination is a good thing for John McCain, DeLay said Obama's "weakness" is that "nobody knows him."

"And if McCain does not define him as what he is — hey, I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, he is a Marxist," DeLay said.

The radio host agreed with DeLay, who is facing money laundering charges, saying Obama is "desperately trying to cover up what seems to be the kind of old school Marxist radical liberal failed ideology."

"Absolutely," DeLay said. "No doubt about it."


Of all the inane things that are believed by and apparently compelling to wingnuts in this country, this one is the most hilarious. It even beats the 'support Israel to pave the way for Armageddon' stuff that both Bush and McCain have seen fit to give the nod to at different times.

I enjoy the fact that DeLay and this tool Gallagher he was talking to are such careless speakers that they say not only what they intend--that Obama's a "Marxist" (??)--but that they also imply-see bold type above-that McCain is also a "Marxist" unless he defines Obama as a "Marxist."

Will someone explain what this means and why wingnuts think this kind of talk is either believable or politically effective? What world do these people live in? Who else lives there? What does "old school Marxist radical liberal" even mean?
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Unless he proves the state of Texas wrong, Tom DeLay is a felon.
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"And if McCain does not define him as what he is — hey, I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, he is a Marxist," DeLay said.

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I enjoy the fact that DeLay and this tool Gallagher he was talking to are such careless speakers that they say not only what they intend--that Obama's a "Marxist" (??)--but that they also imply-see bold type above-that McCain is also a "Marxist" unless he defines Obama as a "Marxist."
That's a bit of a reach. It sounds like he was just pausing and then referring again to Obama.

But yes, the OMG MARXISM and OMG SOCIALISM cards are always funny.
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That's a bit of a reach. It sounds like he was just pausing and then referring again to Obama.

But yes, the OMG MARXISM and OMG SOCIALISM cards are always funny.
Of course, you're right. But that's one of the things that makes these dunderheads so ridiculous. Not only do they say these things in apparent seriousness (as opposed to being purely cynical propagandists), but they're so sloppy and lazy in their thought and language they don't even say it well.

It is astonishing that DeLay was once elevated to one of the half dozen highest positions in the Republican Party just because he could be such a humorless, vicious and punishing demagogue even toward other Republicans who wouldn't follow strict Republican party discipline on House votes.

It's mind numbing that many millions of rightists still share this guy's beliefs.
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Trust me Leo...people who do not know any better eat this crap up and repeat it as if it is meaningful. That is what makes this kind of propaganda dangerous.

I live in Arizona and the white conservative base here loves this crap.
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Trust me Leo...people who do not know any better eat this crap up and repeat it as if it is meaningful. That is what makes this kind of propaganda dangerous.

I live in Arizona and the white conservative base here loves this crap.
I'm sure you're right HrudeyRules. I imagine this is word of God stuff as far as many white wingnuts are concerned. I also think they're preaching to the choir when they say this and I don't imagine that they're making new converts. My guess is that real conservatives (of the rather ordinary business sort) are embarrassed that they have to spend time in the room with the kidnapped-by-aliens-while-I-was-panning-for-gold types who spout this stuff.
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