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About This Page: This is a discussion on Politics within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. McCain V Obama
Reuters/Zogby 03/13 - 03/14 McCain +6%
Gallup (Tues) 5 Day Tracking McCain +2%
Rasmussen (Tues) 4 Day Tracking McCain +6%
McCain V Satan in a pantsuit
Reuters/Zogby
McCain V Obama
Reuters/Zogby 03/13 - 03/14 McCain +6%
Gallup (Tues) 5 Day Tracking McCain +2%
Rasmussen (Tues) 4 Day Tracking McCain +6%
McCain V Satan in a pantsuit
Reuters/Zogby 03/13 - 03/14 40% 48% McCain +8%
Gallup (Tues) 5 Day Tracking 4390 RV 46% 46% Tie
Rasmussen (Tues) 4 Day Tracking 42% 48% McCain +6%
Yeah, this is getting interesting. It looks like Hillary is going to win Pennsylvania. The Dems will have to do something about Michigan and Florida in terms of another primary. If Hillary can hold onto those two states she will have won Ohio, Florida, Pennslyvania, California, and New York. She then can make the argument to the super delegates that she should be the nominee, because she won the big states, including the two states (Florida and Ohio) that decided the last election.
I am really hoping that this goes to a brokered convention just for the simple fact that we have really never seen one.
__________________ Hockey's original bad boy. The "Cowboy" Howie Young
Polls this far out may be useless, but they do pick up a certain zeitgeist that will help the candidates develop their message in the general election.
Certainly the Democrats election to lose this year, but the Republicans picked the one candidate can that can give them a run for their money....
__________________ University of Denver Hockey...lets bring it home boys!
Polls this far out may be useless, but they do pick up a certain zeitgeist that will help the candidates develop their message in the general election.
Certainly the Democrats election to lose this year, but the Republicans picked the one candidate can that can give them a run for their money....
It's painfully obvious what the tactics are going to be on both sides. McCain is going to try to paint the Democrat as not tough enough, and the Democrat is going to paint McCain as too heavily invested in Bush's failures.
If one can be optimistic about these sorts of things, at least *on both sides* the candidates (assuming Clinton isn't part of the fray) are a large improvement over recent offerings.
Last edited by Joe Hoya; March 20th, 2008 at 12:13 AM.
Polls this far out may be useless, but they do pick up a certain zeitgeist that will help the candidates develop their message in the general election.
Certainly the Democrats election to lose this year, but the Republicans picked the one candidate can that can give them a run for their money....
Although many have said that it's the Democrat's election to lose this year, that is not the case.
Reasons:
About 60% of the electorate usually shows up to vote. The hard core right wing vote is about 30% of the overall electorate (guessed at by looking at what % of general election voters vote Republican since 1980 and considering the unshakeable 30% who will go down with the ship supporting Bush).
Only two Democrats have won the popular vote since 1980, Clinton second term and Gore, and Gore still lost.
National popular vote doesn't ultimately matter. Only the tiny fractions of the "swing" votes in the individual states that make the difference in the electoral college matter. Those voters are in southern Ohio, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and maybe still Florida. The solid Republican South and the Red Midwest/West comprise a reliable coalition of states that have small populations but, when added together, the "extra" votes they have because of their two US senators per state gives this coalition of rural states the added electoral college power of about one additional medium sized state. In effect, the Democrats always have to win an "extra" state somewhere in order to win in the electoral college.
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So while the silly liberal candidates bicker, McCain takes lead in polls 
Mouth of Empty Praise!!! 
