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Double number of ex-cons join the US army | World news | The Guardian
Military Waivers for Ex-Convicts Increase - washingtonpost.com
Just think. We can kill
Just think. We can kill two birds with one stone by giving convicts a chance to be all they can be in the military services! Turn the prisons into military bases!
Eliminate prison costs and expand the "national security" budget at the same time by transferring inmates and the prison budget over to the military!!
Turn anti-social scumbags in "heroes" who are our "best and brightest" in one fell swoop!!
Find two million additional "recruits" over night! Never worry again about how to sustain two or even three imperial escapades at once!!
Recidivism is gone! Just call it "re-enlistment"!!
Cut down on training expenses! Plenty of these guys can already handle a gun and have experience in subduing urban populations by forcing them into hiding in their homes after nightfall!
"Stationing" hundreds of thousands of these brave "patriots" overseas for years at a time may seem cruel, but hey, we already do it with thousands of guys who didn't do anything wrong at all!! This might work for busted illegals too!
Capital punishment cases? No problem! Just put them on point!
I just don't see a downside here.
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Not only is the military accepting more felons, but many gangs and criminal organizations are getting an influx of trained killers just getting off their deployments...
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Not only is the military accepting more felons, but many gangs and criminal organizations are getting an influx of trained killers just getting off their deployments...
So where's the problem?
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Oh sweet then the Military can start testing their Psy-Opps on the convicts. MK Ultra program can continue again woot woot. The CIA nad the military can program the convicts to never hurt American Civilians. And they can be sentanced to server their prison terms in the military. There are good and bad things here. One we would be training convicts to kill efficiently, but they could be sentanced to server out their prison time in the military.
I personally don't view it as a good thing because of them being trained to kill efficiently. but yes it could also solve the overcrowding problem and enlisiting problems.
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Why not help the environment and have convicted criminals take the place of crash test dummies? We wouldn't have to harm the enviroment with disposing of damaged dummies then.
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It's nice to see what really drives the American public is still the almighty dollar.
There is a myriad of problems with this, however one that I would think would be a huge one with many of you, is the quality of personnel that we send to the fight. For that matter, the quality of personnel that remain here in the states. It's not just a matter of training some one, putting a rifle in his or her hand, and sending them off to kill the bad guys. Even at the start of the war in Iraq, we (the military) knew the delicacy of the situation from a public stand point. Not just American and Iraqi, but global public, although the main emphasis was on the former two. I do not intend to begin a debate about the current situations over there, but believe me if there is any truth to the thought that the citizens of Iraq hate Americans, just wait until you unleash violent criminals into a hostile environment and add a dose of that false invincibility that comes from recruit training, and carries on further into a career. And on the flip side, how does a person who spent time in prison for a violent crime deal when confronted by a person or group who in an animated manner expresses their disdain and outcry at the war? You might not believe it, you might want to deny it, but there is a growing population who is teetering on the line of driving us back to the Viet Nam era. It took everything I had to keep my bearing when I was called a baby killer, and I don't know that I could if a situation ever went further. So now you have a person who may not have their wires connected properly dealing with that... not a great outcome.
Now, far be it for me to say that some one can't be rehabilitated, but the worst thing to do is take some one who has been rehabilitated and put them in similar circumstances and just expect it to work itself out.
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Originally Posted by gaurdian.co.uk
... doubled its use of "moral waivers" for enlisted soldiers last year to cope with the demands of the Iraq war, allowing sex offenders, people convicted of making terrorist threats, and child abusers into the military, new records released yesterday showed...
... Recruits with felony convictions are more likely than other soldiers to drop out or be released from the military.
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Originally Posted by washingtonpost.com
...accepted more than double the number of applicants with convictions for felony crimes such as burglary, grand larceny and aggravated assault...
...The vast majority of such convictions stem from juvenile offenses. Most involved theft, but a handful involved sexual assault and terrorist threats,...
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Recruits with criminal records have shown mixed performance in the military. A study last year by the Center for Naval Analyses tracked the attrition rates of Marines who enlisted with legal waivers between 2003 and 2005. It showed slightly higher boot camp attrition for those with serious or minor misdemeanor waivers, but somewhat lower attrition for those who committed felonies.
However, those with waivers were "quite a bit more likely" than other recruits to be separated from the service for misconduct within two years, and "recruits with felony waivers have the highest chance of a misconduct separation," it found...
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Originally Posted by Christine Wormuth, Center for Strategic and International Studies
"The numbers seem pretty clear to me that we are lowering standards, and it's difficult for me to see how that wouldn't have a negative impact on the quality of the force," Wormuth said.
Time to Solve the Military Recruitment Problem and Prison Overcrowding... 
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