Tim Russert = Worse Debate Moderator EVER?

[Semper-Fi]

Oh my God! Who watched the final installment of Hillary getting her ass beat by the huge Black man? The only thing more brutal was Tim Russert's HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE debate moderating. He made Brian Williams, who is usually noticeably SUCKY in his own right, come out looking golden. F U, Timmay Russert.

Russert was SOOOO BAD that I found myself feeling sorry for --and even rooting for-- Hillary Clinton at times. But Hillary wasn't the only one suffering the brunt of Russert's horrible moderating skills, Barack HUSSEIN Obama had to deal with it do. Actually, Barack probably took the brunt of it.

Jesus Christ, Russert... aren't there enough REAL LIFE SERIOUS ISSUES you could ask questions about without all your ridiculous hypotheticals? "WHAT IF Al Queda takes over the world... will you reinvade Iraq?" Are you kidding me? STFU! And then he's pounding Obama on Louis Farrakhan's statement that he supports Obama. Obama has repeatedly said he denounces Farrakhan's anti-Semitism. Russert just keeps going. Obama handles it beautifully and mentions the Jewish community supports him, and acknowledges that the Jews had a big hand in the civil rights movement.

And talk about playing right into the Right Wing Noise machines hands... he kept trying to nail Obama on this twisted statement about him waffling on "Public Financing" for his campaign. STFU. For a guy who's supposed to give the facts.... he doesn't even know them. What a douchebag.

All I can say is Thank God the Hillary Campaign will officially be dead in a week from tomorrow morning, so we won't have to endure this. Of course, if NBC does a General Election debate the biggest question leading up to it will only be whether Russert actually sits on McCain's lap during the debate, or if he'll sit next to him and jerk him off from the side?

I know this was like debate # 20 and they're all becoming somewhat redundant, but sheesh.... if this passes as a SERIOUS Debate, then it's no wonder this country is so friggin stupid.

F U, Tim Russert. Worse moderator in history.
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[Hatter]

actually Tim Russert is a fantastic moderator and he is great on MTP every Sunday morning as well. There is absolutely nothing wrong with with asking high percentage hypotheticals imho. And trust me to a lot of Americans those hypotheticals say alot about the candidate regarding the war in Iraq and how the candidate would deal with it.

Another thing about Russert that I love is he never backs down and he seriosuly asks the hardball questions and will press issues unlike most of the ****ing media out there. I think you need to watch more MTP.

And as far as Tim sitting on McCains lap jerking him off you OBVIOUSLY haven't seen MaCain on MTP the multiple times in the last couple months.

Proposal by Obama on Public Financing Appears to Gain;Mr. Obama sought the ruling after all the front-runners in both parties rejected public financing for the primary campaign, already under way, and prepared to forgo it for the general election as well, to avoid the spending limits that it imposes. That would make the 2008 general election the first outside the system since its creation in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal more than three decades ago. Candidates say the amount of public financing — it would be about $85 million per nominee next year.

Yeah THAT doesn't BEG a question. c'mon.

As far as Farakhan, well when The magazine for your church said Louis Farrakhan 'epitomized greatness.' I guess it doesn't matter what the member of the church that is running for president thinks about that. Right? And for the record it would have been nicer if he was a bit more forceful in his decriance of Farakahn. but in the end it was good and necessaryto do for him.

[Mr. Irreverent]

Pwned.

[BIG JOE]

[chu gar]

Hardball questions? That catchphrase is owned by Chris Mathews.

[OddManRush]

Has Hillary Clinton rejected Ann Coulter's support yet? Because Ann is a homophobe and anti-Semite.

Has McCain denounced Rev. John Hagee's support because that man, and his organization Christians United for Israel, is an avowed anti-Semite?

[bjones62]

Semper, the really sad part is you still believe that these two actually care about you and your future. Maybe another two or three elections when your side wins and then does absolutlely nothing will you then realize the system is completely broken.

Until then, just enjoy your fantasy world.

[Hipcheck]

Originally Posted by OddManRush

Has McCain denounced Rev. John Hagee's support because that man, and his organization Christians United for Israel, is an avowed anti-Semite?

I think if McCain was a long time member of a church led by a pastor with such outspoken/controversial views it would be debated just a bit more then the blip on the radar of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

Remember when Bush was condemned for speaking at Bob Jones university? Or the controversy over John Ashcrofts religion? Seems these were pretty big issues at the time but when Obama religious leader openly praises Farrakhan and the only person who mentioned it was Tim Russert during the 27th time Clinton/Obama debates seems to me like hes certainly getting a pass in this area.

Farakhan once said “You can quote me: God will destroy America by the hands of Muslims.... God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims.”

I think its fair to question Obama in these areas.

For the record-I liked Obamas response to the question and while Im probably against most of Obamas economic policies I think he will be the next POTUS and hope he does a great job and makes positive changes.

[OddManRush]

Originally Posted by Hipcheck

I think if McCain was a long time member of a church led by a pastor with such outspoken/controversial views it would be debated just a bit more then the blip on the radar of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

But it's not even that connected, it's a serious case of Kevin Bacon. Obama's current Rev. once praised Farrakhan and Farrakhan praised Obama, so.... what does that mean exactly?

Remember when Bush was condemned for speaking at Bob Jones university? Or the controversy over John Ashcrofts religion? Seems these were pretty big issues at the time but when Obama religious leader openly praises Farrakhan and the only person who mentioned it was Tim Russert during the 27th time Clinton/Obama debates seems to me like hes certainly getting a pass in this area.

Sure, but once again, this is not Obama personally engaging in religious extremism. Bush agreed to go speak at Bob Jones gladly, an institution whos intolerance and illogic is well documented.

Farakhan once said “You can quote me: God will destroy America by the hands of Muslims.... God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims.”

I think its fair to question Obama in these areas.

For the record-I liked Obamas response to the question and while Im probably against most of Obamas economic policies I think he will be the next POTUS and hope he does a great job and makes positive changes.

I'm just saying that you don't see Obama (or Clinton for that matter, besides Ann Coulter) welcoming the endorsements of religious nuts and bigots. Unlike McCain, who readily accepted the endorsement of Rev John Hagee in San Antonio last week, or Huckabee, who is a religious loon himself.

It seems to me, that in the interest of "balance," that the media is overreacting to religious loons of the left, and giving the same people on the right a pass. I hope Tim Russert proves me wrong and asks John McCain straight out: "You recently accepted the endorsement of Rev. John Hagee in person in San Antonio, why did you not denounce him and his anti-Semitic organization which hide behind the cloak of supporting Israel in order to more quickly bring about Armageddon?

[Joe Hoya]

Originally Posted by OddManRush

But it's not even that connected, it's a serious case of Kevin Bacon. Obama's current Rev. once praised Farrakhan and Farrakhan praised Obama, so.... what does that mean exactly?

By the transitive property I'm pretty sure that means Obama is an anti-Semitic radical Muslim.

[go]

I hear Obama and he has never said anything bad about Jews or Muslims for that matter. So why would he say anything other than what he said about Farrakhan.

His whole candidacy is about bringing us together despite our differences. Fear and divisiveness is tool of the weak.

[FLINNSTER69]

That was the best questions set by moderators....screw the nice question BS from the likes of CNN and Wolf Blitzer.
Way to Go Russert!!!!

I like Obama as a person but his answer right off the bat about farrakkkkkan should of been quick and stern and that was " I reject farrahkkkan in the most heavy way period"....That didn't happen...

All in all have a great day all.

[Hipcheck]

Originally Posted by OddManRush

But it's not even that connected, it's a serious case of Kevin Bacon. Obama's current Rev. once praised Farrakhan and Farrakhan praised Obama, so.... what does that mean exactly?

I think the relationship between Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr and Farrakhan is a bit more then simply "Wright Once Praised."

Originally Posted by OddManRush

Sure, but once again, this is not Obama personally engaging in religious extremism. Bush agreed to go speak at Bob Jones gladly, an institution whos intolerance and illogic is well documented.

And obama went to this church for 20 years led by a pastor who has most certainly made some pretty crazy claims. And how do you know "bush gladly went"?
Answer-You dont.

Originally Posted by OddManRush

I'm just saying that you don't see Obama (or Clinton for that matter, besides Ann Coulter) welcoming the endorsements of religious nuts and bigots. Unlike McCain, who readily accepted the endorsement of Rev John Hagee in San Antonio last week, or Huckabee, who is a religious loon himself.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by OddManRush

It seems to me, that in the interest of "balance," that the media is overreacting to religious loons of the left, and giving the same people on the right a pass. I hope Tim Russert proves me wrong and asks John McCain straight out: "You recently accepted the endorsement of Rev. John Hagee in person in San Antonio, why did you not denounce him and his anti-Semitic organization which hide behind the cloak of supporting Israel in order to more quickly bring about Armageddon?

Overreacting? How come the Obama church question was only leveled by Russert recently? Obamas been in the news big time for the last 6 months without any mention of this-thats an overreaction in your book? If anything hes gotten a big time pass on what most certainly is a sticky subject to say the least.

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by Hipcheck

And obama went to this church for 20 years led by a pastor who has most certainly made some pretty crazy claims. And how do you know "bush gladly went"?
Answer-You dont.

Obama "denounced and rejected" Farrakhan. Russert asked it, Obama answered it, end of story. But wait, will it be brought up again and again by wingnuts over the next ten months? Yes, even though it's asked and answered and irrelevant.

What's right with Russert is that he asks questions that are well documented (usually citing in print direct quotations, at least on Meet the Press).

What's wrong with Russert and the people who work for him at NBC, and MSNBC--especially that idiot Chris Matthews--is that they're all too focused on personality and process and not focused enough on policy. They simplify and dumb down policy discussions, or don't even get into them, while they emphasize 'missteps', strategy, rhetoric, personal life, and guilt by association topics. CNN and CBS do the same. FOX does that too while compounding the sin by doing it while actively promoting the ideological position of only one of the parties.


As for the "how do you know Bush gladly went?" thing: Come on Hipcheck, I know you're not serious about that question.


Now it's time for Russert, if he hasn't already, to ask McCain to explain fully why he used to scorn the demands of the right wing evangelicals, but now cozies up to them. What religious experience prompted him to quit the Episcopal Church after a lifetime and become a Baptist just before his campaign for the presidency began?

[Hipcheck]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

As for the "how do you know Bush gladly went?" thing: Come on Hipcheck, I know you're not serious about that question.

No, my point was that by interjeting the word "gladly" he puts the spin that since Bob Jones is whitey central that some Kitten Raping Monster George Bush couldnt wait to appear since he is the reincarnation of hitler afterall. He may have been glad maybe he wasnt-the point is he doesnt know, didnt know, and will never know.

Originally Posted by Leonidas

Now it's time for Russert, if he hasn't already, to ask McCain to explain fully why he used to scorn the demands of the right wing evangelicals, but now cozies up to them. What religious experience prompted him to quit the Episcopal Church after a lifetime and become a Baptist just before his campaign for the presidency began?

Its a good point and a valid point-but the difference is McCains churchs arent aligning themselves with people who have openly called for the destruction of the US in spite of the fact they could be cousin f'ing hillbilly's.