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About This Page: This is a discussion on Politics within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. I'm getting pretty pissed off that seemingly every other week, a story is run about people protesting about released sex offenders moving into their area. "Not in my neighborhood!" seems
I'm getting pretty pissed off that seemingly every other week, a story is run about people protesting about released sex offenders moving into their area. "Not in my neighborhood!" seems to be the motto of choice.
What gives with this? If you want these people locked up for life, the lobby your politicians to increase sentences for these offenses. You'll get no argument for me.
As it stands, however, after they serve their time, they are released back into society - and they have to live SOMEWHERE. I'm pretty sure there isn't a city on the planet that doesn't have children or women who could be the next victims of crimes from these people.
My question is - what's the solution? Where should these people live? For the actual reformed parolee looking to make a living and benefit society, can they ever accomplish this?
To me, the whole "Not in my neighborhood" is nothing more than a selfish act - as by relocating them, they don't seem to have any concern for the people in the new location, do they?
To me, the whole "Not in my neighborhood" is nothing more than a selfish act - as by relocating them, they don't seem to have any concern for the people in the new location, do they?
It is a selfish act to protect their families. I understand that there are few places for sexual offenders to live because of the proximity to schools, but those rules are there to help protect the innocent. These offenders had some of their rights taken away when they committed the crimes. And that was their choice.
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You're right and I think people should probably be a little more lenient towards the treatment of released sex offenders. Yet, that's easy for me to SAY and not actually do. If I got a door bell from one asking for my signature, I'd probably reject him. And if I was moving into a new neighborhood, I'd make sure to check Megans Law and talk to a few neighbors before moving in...
It is a selfish act to protect their families. I understand that there are few places for sexual offenders to live because of the proximity to schools, but those rules are there to help protect the innocent.
You're talking about two different issues. The second one, about the proximately to schools (in regards to child molestors, which I think should be a life sentence) I agree with. That is a right that they lost, so they need to work around the law.
I'm talking about sex offenders that find places that ARE within the law - away from schools, etc. I just don't understand how someone can be so up in arms about protecting THEIR family, but has no concern about the safety of someone elses. Doesn't that just define a selfish act?
I'm talking about sex offenders that find places that ARE within the law - away from schools, etc. I just don't understand how someone can be so up in arms about protecting THEIR family, but has no concern about the safety of someone elses. Doesn't that just define a selfish act?
Gotcha, Selfish maybe. But if there is a time to be selfish it is when you are caring for your family. To me it also depends on the crime. I have no problems making it hell for a Pedo to live by me, but if it was a person accused of plying a gal with booze I might have an other stance.
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Would be nice to sentence longer. Another option that wouldn't interfere with the overcrowding of jails is mandatory counseling for a period of 5 years. This will help the state monitor any improvement in the subject's behavior.
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When it comes to one's family’s safety, one should be as selfish as necessary; not wanting a known sex offender to live in your neighborhood and taking action to prevent it is your duty to your family.
Consider this, the “reported” rate of recidivism for sex offenders is very high as it is, and sex offenses are considered to be one of, if not the most under reported crimes committed.
Read the link in the first paragraph to see how it is broken down if you like.
I will be much more concerned with the victim’s rights and the potential victims than the plight of a known sex offender trying to find a place to live.
I don't like the "Not im my backyard!" attitude either and I do realize that that they have to live somewhere.
But I also understand why some parents freak out at the thought of some perv living next door, especially when it is multiple pervs in one location.
I don't know what the answer is, but I am not going to condemn parents who are protesting such offenders in thier neighborhood if they are doing so out of genuine concern for their kids.
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Gotcha, Selfish maybe. But if there is a time to be selfish it is when you are caring for your family. To me it also depends on the crime. I have no problems making it hell for a Pedo to live by me, but if it was a person accused of plying a gal with booze I might have an other stance.
This I totally agree with. The problem is, there seems to very little difference in the eyes of the law. For instance, todays news story I believe was about a halfway house in Al Hambra, and the six people in question were committed of crimes such as rape (bad) and public exposure (not quite as dangerous.)
One of the best is a sign help up by someone that states "Rape is not allowed in Al Hambra - GET OUT!" I feel ashamed for not walking the sidewalks stating that "Rape is not allowed here - so DON'T COME!"
Being selfish towards ones own family, but there is a time and place that ignoring the fplight of others is a shame for society. This works in many different levels. For instance, we look down on people for committing crimes often without analyzing what the crimes were committed for. A person stealing is bad, but what if they're stealing to feed their own children or medicine because they're sick?
I just think the energy for these people would be much better spent on reforming justice than trying to sweep societies problem out of their neighborhood into someone elses.
This I totally agree with. The problem is, there seems to very little difference in the eyes of the law. For instance, todays news story I believe was about a halfway house in Al Hambra, and the six people in question were committed of crimes such as rape (bad) and public exposure (not quite as dangerous.)
One of the best is a sign help up by someone that states "Rape is not allowed in Al Hambra - GET OUT!" I feel ashamed for not walking the sidewalks stating that "Rape is not allowed here - so DON'T COME!"
Being selfish towards ones own family, but there is a time and place that ignoring the fplight of others is a shame for society. This works in many different levels. For instance, we look down on people for committing crimes often without analyzing what the crimes were committed for. A person stealing is bad, but what if they're stealing to feed their own children or medicine because they're sick?
I just think the energy for these people would be much better spent on reforming justice than trying to sweep societies problem out of their neighborhood into someone elses.
I do understand the need to know what you are protesting. I thought the same thing when I watch these protesters. They never do mention what these sex offenders have been convicted of.
As far as sweeping societies problems out of my neighborhood. You bet that I want them out of my neighborhood. I don't care where they go. It is my job to protect my family above all else. I will not sacrifice their safety under any circumstances. Even if it means the offenders moving to another town. It will then be the job of those people to protect their family and act accordingly. I will not feel bad about moving an offender away from my home and close to another's.
You seem quite interested in setting up some sort of program for these criminals that would be agreeable to most people. I look forward to your proposal and will gladly sign on after I have read it and find it satisfactory. When another protest occurs, you can go and talk with those protesting and give them your proposal.
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In defense of my family I'm going down the street to burn the local Catholic church. No wait, let's round up all the sex offenders, lock them in the Catholic churches and then burn all of them. No wait, here's a better ide..........
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In defense of my family I'm going down the street to burn the local Catholic church. No wait, let's round up all the sex offenders, lock them in the Catholic churches and then burn all of them. No wait, here's a better ide..........
You seem quite interested in setting up some sort of program for these criminals that would be agreeable to most people. I look forward to your proposal and will gladly sign on after I have read it and find it satisfactory. When another protest occurs, you can go and talk with those protesting and give them your proposal.
It's not my job to educate slobs on how to solve their problems. The problems are the cities who give these people reasons for doing it by acting irrationally.
All of these people need to direct their energy to the legistlative branch and demand that there be steps taken to ensure that sex offenders who are a danger to the public never be allowed to re-enter society. Period. End of story. If we have evidence that certain groups of offenders cannot be rehabilitated, there's no reason for us to hunt the country looking for the one place where it should be attempted.
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