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Cindy McCain is injured by a handshake - Los Angeles Times
Yeah . . . the old handshaking sprained wrist that requires
Yeah . . . the old handshaking sprained wrist that requires an X-ray. I'm pretty sure that most people's HMOs wouldn't give approval for an X-ray for a "mild sprain."
What does the Obama's right to send their kids to private school have to do with Cindy McCain's wrist dingus?
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#1) It must be nice for McCain to have his wife getting extra special treatment on OUR dime.
#2) A SLING? For a mildly sprained wrist? That's got to be one of the wussiest things I've ever seen.
The private school thing WAS right out of left field. It was right out of the Republican "Crap, our guy sucks" playbook, though. Well played, sir.
Thanks to the thread derailment, I do have to ask - where does it say that Obama is AGAINST private schools? Sounds to me he believes that if one can afford a private school (as he apparently can), then kids can go to private school. I don't see anything wrong with it. I support the public school system, but if I could afford it, I'd pay to send my kids to a private school, too. The two are not mutually exclusive, unlike what you'd like to believe.
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#1) It must be nice for McCain to have his wife getting extra special treatment on OUR dime.
#2) A SLING? For a mildly sprained wrist? That's got to be one of the wussiest things I've ever seen.
The private school thing WAS right out of left field. It was right out of the Republican "Crap, our guy sucks" playbook, though. Well played, sir.
Thanks to the thread derailment, I do have to ask - where does it say that Obama is AGAINST private schools? Sounds to me he believes that if one can afford a private school (as he apparently can), then kids can go to private school. I don't see anything wrong with it. I support the public school system, but if I could afford it, I'd pay to send my kids to a private school, too. The two are not mutually exclusive, unlike what you'd like to believe.
I think it read like he is trying to straddle both sides of the issue. He's trying to give those in favor of vouchers some hope that he might consider them, while at the same time he's telling the teacher's unions, "Don't worry, I'll never implement vouchers on a national basis, or support them in any way."
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I think it read like he is trying to straddle both sides of the issue. He's trying to give those in favor of vouchers some hope that he might consider them, while at the same time he's telling the teacher's unions, "Don't worry, I'll never implement vouchers on a national basis, or support them in any way."
I see your point. What I don't understand is why this is surprising. You've read the sound bytes and transcripts that McCain is running about Obama raising taxes on families earning $42,000 a year - which of course is nothing more than a bald-faced lie. These guys will both do what it takes to get the votes - lies, kissing babies, (vigourously) shaking hands, and it goes on and on.
I see your point. What I don't understand is why this is surprising. You've read the sound bytes and transcripts that McCain is running about Obama raising taxes on families earning $42,000 a year - which of course is nothing more than a bald-faced lie. These guys will both do what it takes to get the votes - lies, kissing babies, (vigourously) shaking hands, and it goes on and on.
I agree with you. McCain misrepresented Obama's tax plan in that ad.
Both will do whatever it takes to get elected.
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The thing I see so far in Obama (and maybe perhaps even a little from the McCain camp) is that the issues aren't as cut and dry as maybe in elections past. It's always quick on the gun to say the words "flip flop" or "big fat liar", I believe on some of the issues, both candidates have evolved into opinions that may be seen as flip-flops, but are really just attempts to grasp reality.
Let's look at Obama's views on off-shore drilling. In the context of creating a bi-partisan energy plan, he basically said that some compromises would have to be made to get a comprehensive bill passed, and this was the issue that he felt would allow it to get done.
While that may sound like a flip-flop, I take it as a sign of political reality - as well as a move to keep it away as a potential wedge issue.
On the McCain side, while I certainly don't agree with much of his policy on Iraq, I also think it's nasty that the Dems continue to harp on the old "100 year" comment that was made a long time ago. Things have changed, conditions have changed, and if McCain were to say in the next few months (like he's hinted) that there may be signs for a potential US withdrawl - I'm going to focus on THAT positive, not on the fact that he's contradicted himself.
In fact, I think one of Bush's biggest drawbacks has been his steadfastness - being unable to change policy when conditions dictate. Oddly, he seems to only be able to do that now that he's in a lame-duck year with very little actual leverage in Washington.
Look - we've had countless disagreements on this board, but I do think we both agree that we'd like to see change in how campaigns are run, or specifically on how politicians convey their agreements/disagreements to the public. I know we're not going to SEE that change in our lifetime or perhaps anyone elses, but . . . .
McCain's personal healthcare . . . 
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