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Awwww, how cute...everybody getting indignant over the fact that a politician twisted the truth.
You could always just hop back on your unicorns and go back to Rainbowland if it upsets you too much.
What the McCain campaign doesn’t want people to know, according to one GOP strategist I spoke with over the weekend, is that they had an ad script ready to go if Obama had visited the wounded troops saying that Obama was...wait for it...using wounded troops as campaign props. So, no matter which way Obama turned, McCain had an Obama bashing ad ready to launch. I guess that’s political hardball. But another word for it is the one word that most politicians are loathe to use about their opponents—a lie.
This is what some people are calling the Hannity strategy. Right wing nut-muffin Sean Hannity employs a slick strategy of repeating canards very quickly over and over, day in and day out, which aren’t challenged by his TV co-host Alan Colmes or by any of his radio listeners. By relentlessly repeating falsehoods day after day, the theory goes, it becomes embedded in the media. There is truth in this. In 2004, the Bush campaign ran an ad and daily repeated that John Kerry was a flip flopper, running a Kerry clip with the Democratic candidate saying he voted for an $87 billion military appropriation before he voted against it. It sounded bad when ripped out of context. Kerry voted for it in committee, and then voted against in on a floor vote when the bill included giveaways to Halliburton he didn’t support.
The distortion took on a life of its own, parroted by mainstream media including Chris Matthews, and even the Tom Brokaw and the late Tim Russert. It is a case study in how effective advertising can work when it is done relentlessly and consistently…even if its untrue. Hannity enployed the same strategy conflating a passing acquaintance between Obama and former unconvicted Weather Underground activist William Ayers with "an association" with Obama...for months. He talked it up every day. He finally goaded ABC's George Stephanopoulus to ask Obama about it in a televised debate. It didn't matter that Obama has nothing that could be construed by a thinking person like "an association" with Ayers. He raised the question just by repeating it daily.
Welcome to the new McCain cum Schmidt cum Rove campaign.
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Last night on Countdown, KO pointed out that Paris Hilton parents donated the max(4600) to McCains campaign. I wonder if they are "sitting back and enjoing (it)" the Celebrity ad, like Lieberman suggets?
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Last edited by shadowalk; August 1st, 2008 at 10:54 AM.
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I'm pretty disgusted by McCain's tactics right now. Everything is look at obama doing this, look at obama doing that. It's like a little kid ratting out another kid to a teacher, even when what the other kid is doing is not a big deal.
I'm not a big Obama fan, and McCain is right about at how much I respect nancy pelosi at this point.
That's a great one Joe. I liked it the other day when US amb. to the UN Zalmay Khalilzad (former amb. to Iraq) said to the Russians, "The days of overthrowing leaders by military means IN EUROPE--those days are gone." Jon Stewart did a hilarious bit on the Daily Show about that remark the other day.
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain cites three absurd-sounding examples of pork-barrel spending in a recent ad: a "bridge to nowhere," a study of the DNA of bears and a Woodstock museum.
McCain is known for fighting against earmarks, the other term lawmakers use for funding of pet projects back home. But he appears to have chosen these three because they're easy to mock, not because he had significant involvement in removing them from the budget.
He never specifically went after the "bridge to nowhere," and he was absent for key votes on its funding.
While he tried to cut money for several other projects in the same bill, he never proposed cutting the bear study and voted for the final bill containing it.
He wasn't present for the most important votes on the Woodstock museum, including one on an amendment he co-sponsored to kill the earmark and divert some of the funds.
Obama's one accomplishment? Legislation to teach \\"comprehensive sex education\\" to kindergartners. Learning about sex before learning to read?
According to the McCain campaign's own email, that's based on Obama's support for a bill that said:
\\"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.\\"
As you can see, the McCain ad says that Obama was the one who pushed the \\"comprehensive sex education.\\" The Obama campaign has pointed out that the bill would simply add instruction on disease prevention to already existing classes. And the McCain campaign turned this into Obama's support for \\"learning about sex before learning to read.\\"
And \\"civil\\" and \\"honorable\\" McCain approved that message.
More on the newest lie about "teaching kindergarders sex before they can read." Fansince67 brought up the comments on CNN last night (mostly from Mark Halperin of Time Mag) about how the press is not doing its job because it isn't calling McCain and Palin on blatant lies.
It's beginning to look like the press itself will begin to report that the lying itself (bridge to nowhere, this ad, etc) will become an issue McCain has to deal with over the next few weeks. If they do it will be the first time ever, but except for the Swift boat stuff against Kerry it's never been as bad and unashamed as it is with McCain's bunch.
And now FactCheck.org has had to post this objection to the McCain campaign's blatant lying in ads. The McCain campaign has LIED about content it took from FactCheck itself!
McCain's claim to being an honorable man is in tatters. He and his Rove operatives have reached new lows. This is the kind of government they will "lead" as well.
NEW YORK (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Friday running mate Sarah Palin has never asked for money for lawmakers' pet projects as Alaska governor when in fact she has sought nearly $200 million in earmarks this year.
Think Progress has made a list of McCains flip-flops Think Progress John McCain’s 42 Flip-Flops
Just the flip-flop on Jerry Falwell should be enough to settle the arguement.
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Jerry Falwell And The Religious Right
McCain Flips:
During the 2000 Presidential primaries, McCain referred to Falwell and other Christian right leaders as “agents of intolerance.” [CNN, 2/28/00]
McCain Flops:
In 2006 McCain delivered the commencement address at Falwell’s Liberty University. Falwell “rolled out the red carpet for his old adversary, assembling about 150 church leaders from around the country for a Friday night reception and later hosting a small, private dinner for the senator.” [Washington Post, 5/14/06] "