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About This Page: This is a discussion on Politics within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by job
Besides that, I'm smart, funny and attractive, so I get to post anywhere about anything. Now kick me down some positive karma and shut up.
job
Ah, come on. You mean the great thinkers here aren't changing minds and influencing America?
I am sure they may change a few minds. But come on, this as a subforum on a hockey board. That is not to say there are not serious people here but if they want a place where everyone is as serious about politics as them then perhaps they would be better served on s site like the Daily Kos.
I am sure they may change a few minds. But come on, this as a subforum on a hockey board. That is not to say there are not serious people here but if they want a place where everyone is as delirious about politics as them then perhaps they would be better served on s site like the Daily Kos.
FIFY.
I am sure some of the folks here are regular visitors to the Daily Kos.
__________________ Hockey's original bad boy. The "Cowboy" Howie Young
That's really good. You should go thread**** in every thread on this board.
I don't know what you're so upset about.
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Originally Posted by Kings Provisional
I am sure they may change a few minds. But come on, this as a subforum on a hockey board. That is not to say there are not serious people here but if they want a place where everyone is as serious about politics as them then perhaps they would be better served on a site like the Daily Kos.
I was just pointing out that self-proclaimed political experts like yourself shouldn't waste their talent just posting here.
__________________ Hockey's original bad boy. The "Cowboy" Howie Young
Details on how McCain has lied about Obama's position on the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
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"For if once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." Thomas DeQuincey, 1700's
McCain reverses his stance on warrantless wiretapping and telecom immunity. Six months ago, he's against them, now he's for them. But he says he's been for them all along.
6 months ago:
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Mr. McCain was asked whether he believed that the president had constitutional power to conduct surveillance on American soil for national security purposes without a warrant, regardless of federal statutes.
He replied: “There are some areas where the statutes don’t apply, such as in the surveillance of overseas communications. Where they do apply, however, I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is.”
Following up, the interviewer asked whether Mr. McCain was saying a statute trumped a president’s powers as commander in chief when it came to a surveillance law. “I don’t think the president has the right to disobey any law,” Mr. McCain replied.
Now:
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In a letter posted online by National Review this week, the adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said Mr. McCain believed that the Constitution gave Mr. Bush the power to authorize the National Security Agency to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and e-mail without warrants, despite a 1978 federal statute that required court oversight of surveillance.
Mr. McCain believes that “neither the administration nor the telecoms need apologize for actions that most people, except for the A.C.L.U. and trial lawyers, understand were constitutional and appropriate in the wake of the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001,” Mr. Holtz-Eakin wrote.
And if Mr. McCain is elected president, Mr. Holtz-Eakin added, he would do everything he could to prevent terrorist attacks, “including asking the telecoms for appropriate assistance to collect intelligence against foreign threats to the United States as authorized by Article II of the Constitution.”
Claiming his stance hasn't changed:
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Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, said Mr. McCain’s position on surveillance laws and executive power “has not changed.”
“John McCain has been an unequivocal advocate of pursuing the radicals and extremists who seek to attack Americans,” Mr. Bounds wrote in an e-mail message, adding that Mr. McCain’s “votes and positions have been completely consistent and any suggestion otherwise is a distortion of his clear record.”
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