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Originally Posted by santiclaws Can we all please just stop pretending that there is any significant difference between the two political parties? The two parties have different constituencies, but everyone

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Old August 11th, 2008, 12:27 PM   #37
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Can we all please just stop pretending that there is any significant difference between the two political parties? The two parties have different constituencies, but everyone has to pay to play.
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Old August 11th, 2008, 12:52 PM   #38
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Hysterical? Just stating the facts. The Republicans keep putting incompetent people in important positions. "Brownie, you're doin a heckuva job" ring a bell? The prescription drug plan in an interesting example. The Republicans held the vote open until 3: a.m. so they could twist enough arms to get that bill passed. There were pharmaceutical lobbyist on the House floor during this period. The Cons told us it would only cost about $380 Billion over ten years. After the bill becomes law they tell us it would cost about $540 Billion. Now the estimate is around $700 Billion. There is a provision in the bill that forbids Medicare from negotiating buld pricing similar to what the Veterans Adiministration has. This was a pure money grab by Big Pharma. Conservatives complain about big government, but they like it when it benefits their corporate buddies.
Look, if you want to say that the Republicans have put some really ****ty policies in, sounds fine to me. I've got no argument with that.

Now, if you want to say:

"In the end, privatizing all of these functions just drives up costs and cost the taxpayers more while the insiders profit at our expense."

Well, that's a bunch of bull****. Not ONE thing you posted there has anything to do with privatizing anything. Saying that, and then posting big gov't programs as your examples doesn't exactly hold water.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 02:19 PM   #39
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Those poor, poor corporations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/bu...l?ref=business

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Two out of every three United States corporations paid no federal income taxes from 1998 through 2005, according to a report released Tuesday by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.
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I would expect more out of you, OMR...

The vast majority of the large corporations that did not pay taxes had net losses, he said, and thus no income on which to pay taxes. “The notion that there is a large pool of untaxed corporate profits is incorrect.”

there are tons of people with their own corporations that don't do any kind of business. and therefore do not pay any taxes. but they are registered and would count towards this study.

and heck, every one of those dot coms during that time that never made a penny of profit.

Just stick with going after the tax breaks that big oil gets. I'm totally with you about changing that arrangement.
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I would expect more out of you, OMR...

The vast majority of the large corporations that did not pay taxes had net losses, he said, and thus no income on which to pay taxes. “The notion that there is a large pool of untaxed corporate profits is incorrect.”

there are tons of people with their own corporations that don't do any kind of business. and therefore do not pay any taxes. but they are registered and would count towards this study.

and heck, every one of those dot coms during that time that never made a penny of profit.

Just stick with going after the tax breaks that big oil gets. I'm totally with you about changing that arrangement.
But dude, you're quoting the conservative "expert" that was interviewed for the article. Just look at the facts: 25% of corporations with over 250 million dollars in assets payed no federal income tax. Not all of those corporations didn't make money.
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But dude, you're quoting the conservative "expert" that was interviewed for the article. Just look at the facts: 25% of corporations with over 250 million dollars in assets payed no federal income tax. Not all of those corporations didn't make money.
the issue isn't if they generated revenue or not. it is whether or not they had a profit.
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Look, if you want to say that the Republicans have put some really ****ty policies in, sounds fine to me. I've got no argument with that.

Now, if you want to say:

"In the end, privatizing all of these functions just drives up costs and cost the taxpayers more while the insiders profit at our expense."

Well, that's a bunch of bull****. Not ONE thing you posted there has anything to do with privatizing anything. Saying that, and then posting big gov't programs as your examples doesn't exactly hold water.
Well, some of the sh**ty policies have been for privatizing some of the basic functions that the government (and military as well) should be able to handle. I'm not saying that the private sector doesn't have its role, and I'm not calling for a Socialist economic model. Big government can serve the populace or the corporate/ investor class. We have no bid contracts for work in Iraq (Blackwater) or the Medicare Prescription Drug Bill (giveaway to Big Pharma). These are both examples of Big Government benefiting the very few, with very little oversight. There is a need for reasonable and enforcable regulation.
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