Latest whisper campaign that's crossing over to Mainstream: Obama is the Anti-Christ.

[dgrycan]

Folks - the campaign really hasn't even started yet. People won't get a good picture of these two until they get in the same venue and debate. And every Republican I know is scared to death of that day, because they know their horse doesn't have the ability to put together an argument that the American people are going to buy.

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by Hipcheck

Funny how no one had any issues with the electoral college until 2002. In other word for roughly 225 years it was fine-but just recently its not so fine.

Holy crap Hipcheck, do you know the history of the constitutional convention? Or the Civil War? Jesus.

[TBrown33]

Originally Posted by KINGS17

Heaps of hypocrisy and irony.

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[KINGS17]

Originally Posted by dgrycan

Folks - the campaign really hasn't even started yet. People won't get a good picture of these two until they get in the same venue and debate. And every Republican I know is scared to death of that day, because they know their horse doesn't have the ability to put together an argument that the American people are going to buy.

I guess we'll see, but so far I'm not to impressed when Obama has to go without a teleprompter or off script.

By all accounts McCain is very tough in town hall venues. If he wasn't and Obama was confident about in his ability to put McCain away we would have already seen a couple of town hall meetings.

The Democratic primary would seem to indicate that Obama is not a great finisher. The more he has to ad lib the better the Republicans are going to like it.

[dgrycan]

Originally Posted by KINGS17

I guess we'll see, but so far I'm not to impressed when Obama has to go without a teleprompter or off script.

Well, I feel the same about McCain both on script AND on. He's an upgrade on Bush, which should tell you exactly how important the issue is to voters, apparently.

By all accounts McCain is very tough in town hall venues. If he wasn't and Obama was confident about in his ability to put McCain away we would have already seen a couple of town hall meetings.

How do we really know? The RNC sets up their town halls in such a way that they are attended by supporters. I'm tired about hearing questions of just how awesome it would be to see them president.

And he's great at town hall meetings? You mean when he goes "off script" and starts signing Beach Boy tunes that indicate the potential for thousands more American lives on the line?

The Democratic primary would seem to indicate that Obama is not a great finisher. The more he has to ad lib the better the Republicans are going to like it.

The problem is - McCain really hasn't been challenged yet - so we don't know if he can finish a damn thing, either. Obama was obviously good enough to beat a very viable candidate in Clinton, so he's always won a challenge that McCain never really had to face. The fact that Obama is stepping aside on vacation right now shows that the fight really hasn't begun, no matter what smear commercials McCain wants to run during the Olympics.

November is a LONG way away in a campaign sense. And I'm very happy with one important sign - just like the Dems did in 2000 and 2004, Republicans are focussing on the negatives of their opponents as opposed to the positives of their nominee, because they know there's not much there. If history holds true - it should work out fine for the Dems.

[KINGS17]

Originally Posted by dgrycan

The problem is - McCain really hasn't been challenged yet - so we don't know if he can finish a damn thing, either. Obama was obviously good enough to beat a very viable candidate in Clinton, so he's always won a challenge that McCain never really had to face.

Really? McCain rallied back from being a candidate which people gave no chance to the one that won the nomination.

Once he got a head of steam going he finished off the competition very quickly.

[Joe Hoya]

Originally Posted by KINGS17

Really? McCain rallied back from being a candidate which people gave no chance to the one that won the nomination.

Once he got a head of steam going he finished off the competition very quickly.

More a symbol of how fractured the GOP is right now than anything else. Romney couldn't sell the South because he's a Mormon, Huckabee couldn't sell anyone but the South because he's a lunatic, Thompson didn't even bother trying, and Giuliani both allocated campaign resources poorly and was too liberal socially.

Clinton was a much more of a formidable primary opponent, both financially and in credibility with her party's base, than anyone McCain defeated.

[OddManRush]

Originally Posted by Joe Hoya

More a symbol of how fractured the GOP is right now than anything else. Romney couldn't sell the South because he's a Mormon, Huckabee couldn't sell anyone but the South because he's a lunatic, Thompson didn't even bother trying, and Giuliani both allocated campaign resources poorly and was too liberal socially.

Clinton was a much more of a formidable primary opponent, both financially and in credibility with her party's base, than anyone McCain defeated.

Also the way the Republican Primaries are structured, with winner take all states, makes for a very short campaign.