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About This Page: This is a discussion on Politics within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. So how many of you are going to this soldier's court martial to support him???
Canada orders first U.S. war deserter out - upi - Gulf in the Media
I've sworn to myself that the next court martial for desertion that I'm going to attend will be George Bush's.
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Canada's policy has been not to deport or extradite anyone who would face torture or capital punishment, and the Conservative government's stand is that U.S. courts martial for desertion don't fall into either category
I didn't know that. I guess its a good get out of jail free card
The case came to light in 2006, when Nazario's former squadmate, Sgt. Ryan Weemer, volunteered details to a U.S. Secret Service job interviewer during a lie-detector screening that included a question about the most serious crime he ever committed. Weemer was ordered this month to stand trial in military court on charges of unpremeditated murder and dereliction of duty in the killing of an unarmed detainee in Fallujah. He has pleaded not guilty.
I wonder if he 5th would apply given that the statements were not in a court of law. In any case that should be interesting.
Well, I guess it would also depend on whether that person was read their rights before hand. It's very interesting considering the possibile issues. Miranda, 5th amendment, "confession" under duress.
Well, I guess it would also depend on whether that person was read their rights before hand. It's very interesting considering the possibile issues. Miranda, 5th amendment, "confession" under duress.
Yeah, but a SS interview isnt exactly "duress" it's entirely voluntary. Whatevs, if this dude killed unarmed prisoners of war... well... I think that qualifies as a war crime. Granted, I understand the difficulty in dealing with prisoners while involved in a combat action... but it's hard to be the good guys.
Yeah, but a SS interview isnt exactly "duress" it's entirely voluntary. Whatevs, if this dude killed unarmed prisoners of war... well... I think that qualifies as a war crime. Granted, I understand the difficulty in dealing with prisoners while involved in a combat action... but it's hard to be the good guys.
I guess duress is a strong word, but considering it's a lie detector for future employment in a gov't agency. . .there might be an argument for it.
Sure. If he killed unarmed civilians, that's not right. I kind of agree with the argument that it should be in a military court however AND, if the superior told him to do it, that person should be punished as well.
Sure. If he killed unarmed civilians, that's not right. I kind of agree with the argument that it should be in a military court however AND, if the superior told him to do it, that person should be punished as well.
Im unclear on where it should be tried myself. Sure it was committed while he wore the uniform... but I think war crimes have been prosecuted by civilian authorities in the past(not sure of that). Getting the person who ultimately gave the order would be great... but I don't think thats a likely scenario.
Canada to deport army deserter back to US 
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