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Mr. Unintentional Irony holds forth again. My favorite line is in the last paragraph. "...(steroid use) sends the wrong message--that there are short cuts to accomplishment..." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/sp...=1&oref=slogin

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Old December 14th, 2007, 12:56 PM   #1
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Mr. Unintentional Irony holds forth again.

My favorite line is in the last paragraph.

"...(steroid use) sends the wrong message--that there are short cuts to accomplishment..."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/sp...=1&oref=slogin
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Except that quote is from 2004.
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Old December 14th, 2007, 01:04 PM   #3
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didn't Jose Canseco just throw the President of The United States under a bus?
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Old December 14th, 2007, 02:37 PM   #4
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“The use of performance-enhancing drugs like steroids in baseball, football and other sports is dangerous and it sends the wrong message — that there are shortcuts to accomplishment, and that performance is more important that character."

That is the quote.
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Thanks jbruin, the NYT quoted his 2004 statement after reporting that he had "revisited" the issue today making additional comments.

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The use of the ellipses before and after the quoted phrase indicates that the quoted phrase is taken from a longer comment and alerts readers to check for the complete phrase and context. Quoting the part I did was meant to highlight the ridiculousness of BUSH JR. offering ANYBODY else, especially kids, a cautionary tale about sending messages that there are "shortcuts to accomplishment." Mr. Unintentional Irony is also Mr. Silver Spoon-fed Shortcuts to Accomplishment.
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The use of... before and after the... indicates that the quoted phrase is taken from a... complete phrase and context. Quoting the part I did was meant to... BUSH JR.
I know what the ellipses are used for, I was just making a point that you left out part of the quote and somewhat changed Bush's statement.
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To be fair. . .he's a bigger fan of baseball than politics. . .and better at it too.
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To be fair. . .he's a bigger fan of baseball than politics. . .and better at it too.
Well, the Rangers might not agree with you there.
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Hey,,maybe you are onto something here. An owner willing to do anything to rise to the top, damn the rules. "Dubya" in AEG out.
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Well, the Rangers might not agree with you there.
Better owner or a President?
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Better owner or a President?
That's like asking if Paris Hilton is a better actress or singer.
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That's like asking if Paris Hilton is a better actress or singer.
You should be asking whether Paris Hilton would be a better President than Bush. The answer is a lot more difficult than one might imagine.

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You should be asking whether Paris Hilton would be a better President than Bush. The answer is a lot more difficult than one might imagine.

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I think their policy is the same on the economy--they want Americans to go shopping.
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