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About This Page: This is a discussion on Politics within the LetsGoKings.com forums, at Los Angeles Kings Hockey Fan Forum. Originally Posted by seraphim
Women belong behind their husbands or in the kitchen. How dare they be competent, intelligent, partners in their marriages??? ***s.
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and what about that makes
I'd daresay that if there is a racist bone in a person, they're not going to vote for obama, regardless of fox news or not.
That's why I frequently say it will be surprising if Obama wins.
HOWEVER!
The real question is: Should we passively allow racism to be exploited, or should it be identified and discussed with the ultimate goals being to expose it for the damage it does to the country and to people and to condemn it and make it shameful? By what intellectual standard can racism in any form be deemed legitimate? If it isn't legitimate then why not hold those who employ it (either blatantly, or subtly) up to ridicule?
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Last edited by Leonidas; June 14th, 2008 at 09:49 AM.
The real question is: Should we passively allow racism to be exploited, or should it be identified and discussed with the ultimate goals being to expose it for the damage it does to the country and to people and to condemn it and make it shameful? By what intellectual standard can racism in any form be deemed legitimate? If it isn't legitimate then why not hold those who employ it (either blatantly, or subtly) up to ridicule?
Because Obama called it a "smear" when we attacked his Black Liberation Theology church
Catch up on the news Crappy. Obama repudiated the comments of Wright and has resigned from the church. So why is this such a hot issue with you still?? Because you're worried about Obama's "character"?? Right, yeah that's the ticket!!
No, because you're filled with anger you feel compelled to express in the form of racial resentment. What's your problem really? Why not do the political thing without the racial overtones? Please explain why you won't
That's why I requently say it will be surprising if Obama wins.
HOWEVER!
The real question is: Should we passively allow racism to be exploited, or should it be identified and discussed with the ultimate goals being to expose it for the damage it does to the country and to people and to condemn it and make it shameful? By what intellectual standard can racism in any form be deemed legitimate? If it isn't legitimate then why not hold those who employ it (either blatantly, or subtly) up to ridicule?
You can't openly discuss it when accusing somebody of racism. You can only assume what their intent is. It is not racism to exploit the perceived difference between her beliefs and those of the average American. I think it's offensive to label somebody a racist for doing so. Now, if this was the KKK guy from the Stern show, I think it would be a safe assumption, but to imply that it's race related, also implies that those who are genuinely concerned are racists. Therefore, the desired effect of claiming racism is to influence people ignore the issue, fearing that if they voice their concerns they will be labeled as racists.
Like I said before, this will work at first, but if it continues, a point will be reached when people will realize that they are blaming EVERYTHING on racism.
That's why I requently say it will be surprising if Obama wins.
HOWEVER!
The real question is: Should we passively allow racism to be exploited, or should it be identified and discussed with the ultimate goals being to expose it for the damage it does to the country and to people and to condemn it and make it shameful? By what intellectual standard can racism in any form be deemed legitimate? If it isn't legitimate then why not hold those who employ it (either blatantly, or subtly) up to ridicule?
my answer would be that any edge will get exploited by people who want the person to win (the person running for office may not be happy about those tactics).
and some people can pick racism out of anything that happens to them, even if there isn't any.
the sad part is that we have to have this discussion in the first place.
Catch up on the news Crappy. Obama repudiated the comments of Wright and has resigned from the church. So why is this such a hot issue with you still??
It's still an issue because he was part of that church for so long that by simply repudiating the statements of its pastor and suggesting that he never heard any of that rhetoric while he attended should cause any reasonable individual to raise questions about Obama's ability to listen and judge character.
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Catch up on the news Crappy. Obama repudiated the comments of Wright and has resigned from the church. So why is this such a hot issue with you still?? Because you're worried about Obama's "character"?? Right, yeah that's the ticket!!
No, because you're filled with anger you feel compelled to express in the form of racial resentment. What's your problem really? Why not do the political thing without the racial overtones? Please explain why you won't
Why is it that anyone that questions Obama's judgment based on his association with the Trinity Church for 20 years has to be full of racial resentment?
Why can't you do the political thing without calling other people racists?
Please explain why you won't.
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Catch up on the news Crappy. Obama repudiated the comments of Wright and has resigned from the church. So why is this such a hot issue with you still?? Because you're worried about Obama's "character"?? Right, yeah that's the ticket!!
No, because you're filled with anger you feel compelled to express in the form of racial resentment. What's your problem really? Why not do the political thing without the racial overtones? Please explain why you won't
Leo, denouncing the comments of Jeremiah Wright under political duress hardly makes up for the 20+ years that he sat in the church listening to ,and thus condoning, the anti-white, anti-America, hate rhetoric. When it comes to Michelle Obama, her statement about never having been proud of America only reinforces the suspicion created by the Wright issue.
Now, you're a smart guy. The fact that you're denying these issues tells me that you've either got your "our guy" glasses on (which I find hard to believe), or you're willing to accept these flaws as, at the very least, a character flaw in the Obamas, or supportive of your own opinion (or somewhere in between).
As the official LGK spokesman of the left, can you please enlighten those of us on the other side of the fence, as to why this is acceptable?
Leo, denouncing the comments of Jeremiah Wright under political duress hardly makes up for the 20+ years that he sat in the church listening to ,and thus condoning, the anti-white, anti-America, hate rhetoric. When it comes to Michelle Obama, her statement about never having been proud of America only reinforces the suspicion created by the Wright issue.
Wright is not and was not "anti-white" or anti-American." He denounced systematic racism. Wright was a Corpsman who helped operate on LBJ. He served
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