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He's been one of the worst presidents in the history of the country, and his record would be laughable if the stakes aren't (and weren't) so high and his performance

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Old August 28th, 2008, 01:51 PM   #19
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He's been one of the worst presidents in the history of the country, and his record would be laughable if the stakes aren't (and weren't) so high and his performance so poor. Anyone who fails to recognize this is either being dishonest with themselves or, as in the case of those who voted for him in 2004, naive, cruel, or stupid.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 01:57 PM   #20
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Old August 28th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #21
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He says funny stuff on accident? Um, The Daily Show?
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Old August 28th, 2008, 02:50 PM   #22
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I could say he began the path to normalize relations with Libya...

*insert obnoxious buzzer noise here*


...and you'd be wrong.

Born again to reality : US and Lybia diplomatical relationships - Lasting News

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The talks with Libya began during the Clinton administration and included a plan that outlined exactly what Libya could expect as it fulfilled U.S. demands.

“Some say it is supposed to send a message to the Iranians,” said Edward Walker Jr., president of the Middle East Institute and a former assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs under Bill Clinton. “As far as I can see, the message is that it worked because they had direct talks with the Libyans.” (washington post)
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Old August 28th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #23
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I said FOR guys.

So far...
Africa
Not derailing talks with Libya
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Old August 28th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #24
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Take Africa off the list.

BBC NEWS | Health | US criticised for HIV aid effort

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The Bush administration backs an \"ABC\" plan to fight Aids: Abstinence until marriage; Being faithful to one sexual partner; and if those conditions are not practised, the use of Condoms.

In 2003, the US Government approved a $15bn package over five years to fight the spread of Aids.
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I'd applaud his fiscal efforts in Africa if it wasn't for two things;

It's predominately money and food aid. This is nice. That said, stop relying on NGO's to put their boots on the ground and actually offer assistance.

A secure northern/central Africa contributes to stability within the Islamic community. Terrorism is pretty easy to foster amongst discontent Islamic Darfurians. 65% of Darfurians are Muslim. Draw your own conclusions.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #26
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Yes, because the opinions of one man completely discounts everything else.

I noticed you didn't quote this part:

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Mark Dybul, US Global Aids coordinator, said only 7% of funding for 2005 had been spent on abstinence programmes.
And then there's this from here.

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Congress required that the PEPFAR money should be divided in the following way:

55% for the treatment of individuals with HIV/AIDS (and in FYs 2006 through 2008, 75% of this is to be spent on the purchase and distribution of antiretroviral drugs)
15% for the palliative care of individuals with HIV/AIDS
20% for HIV/AIDS prevention (of which at least 33% is to be spent on abstinence until marriage programmes)
10% for helping orphans and vulnerable children (and in FYs 2006 through 2008, at least 50% (of the 10%) is to be provided through non-profit, non-governmental organisations, including faith-based organisations, that implement programmes at the community level).
You'll notice that breaks down to about 6% of the total amount of funding. That also means that about 12% of the funding goes to other measures.

But, discount this entirely just because a UN guy who's country donated 1/20th of what the US did says something.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #27
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Yes, because the opinions of one man completely discounts everything else.

I noticed you didn't quote this part:



And then there's this from here.



You'll notice that breaks down to about 6% of the total amount of funding. That also means that about 12% of the funding goes to other measures.

But, discount this entirely just because a UN guy who's country donated 1/20th of what the US did says something.

All of which leaves us with
Africa
Not derailing direct talks with a state sponsor of terror(Libya)

Please provide more.
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Old August 29th, 2008, 07:58 AM   #28
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Wow...another thread turned into a total pissing match with whining and insults. Nice Work guys.
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Bush = signing statements

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Ever hear of the Cuban missile crisis?
Yes, but Bush's press secretary hasn't. I wonder if American History is a prerequisite for that job.

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Reggie Bush has ****ing sucked. That's pretty much a fact.
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I still think that right up to 9/11, Bush and Co. were headed in the right direction. After that, they all went insane.
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I still think that right up to 9/11, Bush and Co. were headed in the right direction. After that, they all went insane.
Hmm... gimme a specific subject and ill add it to my list.
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Hmm... gimme a specific subject and ill add it to my list.
Unfortunately, between a pissed off congress and 9/11 it all got derailed. He had a decent education plan that got gutted by congress. Tax cuts were a good idea had it not been for his stupid war that drove the debt back up. If you look at it all now, its all junk. Like I said, 9/11 happened and they all went insane. Congress included.
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