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The two Town Hall Meetings held over the last 10 days could not have been more different. The first outing, the hostility of the crowd was palpable, extreme and at times even more over the top than that. Don’t take my word for it, consider this example:

Parking Lot 8 went from $20.00 per game to $30.00 per game next season. A huge offensive increase no doubt. In the first meeting, a teacher went on how the price change would cause her to park further away. Okay, so far, so good, well the more distant lot would put her in physical danger. Okay, a reasonable emotion. That safety risk then became equated with physical assault and then rape …. and could the Kings live with that? Enough said.

Now, Saturday morning involved the kindler, gentler crowd. The most passionate pleas were two diatribes against Blake. In the interest of full disclosure, my past blogs document I have often take a strong stance against the captain. On the ice, he never fully earned his $6 million dollar salary. At least not in my mind. Little did I know a large contingent of one section of Staples Center sent a representative who said that his block of 20-30 season ticket holders may not renew solely based upon the Kings re-signing him. Really.

I will provide blogs in installments due to their length. Now to the specifics:

ABILITY TO KEEP YOUNGER CORE FORWARDS HERE:

Hextall explained that he knows that it takes longer for defenseman to develop than forwards. It is common knowledge that the team had forwards in the organization who now comprise the team’s core. Defensively, the cupboard was and is still is thin if not outright bare. As Hextall said at the earlier meeting, the plan is to bring in at least 2, probably 3 defensemen. The brain trust is not counting on any 2008 drafted players to make the team.

TEAM’S LACK OF PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE:

The current Stanley Cup Finals is Exhibit “A” for the issue, which matters most? Youthful talent or experience. Hextall’s response surprised me. Lombardi last year stated his preference to look for winners and Final Four players. In contrast, Hextall said that while he acknowledges play-off experience is important; it may be over-rated. Huh?

Hextall continued that it is the will and drive to win that is more dispositive. The older, experienced veterans (insert the Gary Roberts or Dave Andreychuk player of your choice) are great but older players lose that drive and their abilities decrease in the sunset portion of their careers. Those veterans that do make a difference do so solely as lesser minute role players; as opposed to carrying a team to a Cup.

These ‘character’ players in a Kings’ uniform have been Thornton and Blake.

CRAWFORD’S THREE YEAR PLAN:

A fan asked Hextall to respond to Crawford’s tenure if his third year here doesn’t play out according to Crawford’s three year plan. This question never got answered.

GOALTENDING:

I look forward to the day when this question won’t need to be asked. File that one in the Department of the Obvious. Since a netminder is the most difficult need to fill, and because this regime is plain not trading kids for veteran help, there is no current plan to make a trade for a ‘fill in the blank’ short term goaltender solution. (This would be defined as Bernier for ‘fill in the blank’.)

Hextall continued that 80% of netminding is between the ears. The organization is committed to letting this play out with Bernier, Zatkoff, Quick, Taylor, LaBarbera and Ersberg. (The latter bright spot is still deemed ‘unproven’ by Hextall.)

A fan’s interesting example of a short term solution was the acquisition of Sean Burke. No doubt after watching Fukofuji and Brust, Burke was an obvious breath of fresh air for sure. Hextall stated that Burke made a great two (2) month solution and no more.

WHAT IS BEING DONE FOR PK AND SHUT DOWN DEFENSIVE PLAYERS?

The Kings acknowledge this is a need. The guys in the AHL who ‘may not be ready’ but are pegged for this role are Matt Moulson and Brady Murray. As for Giuliano who filled this need well last season, he becomes unrestricted on July 1, 2008. Despite the fact that the Union Leader wrote that the Kings wanted to talk to Giuliano before he goes unrestricted, Hextall Saturday said that re-signing him is not a priority.

BRIAN BOYLE:

Hextall and Lombardi met with Boyle at the end of his junior year. They both felt that he developed all that he would in college. They wanted him to turn professional. Boyle preferred to return to college for his senior year and try to win an NCAA championship. Hextall still believes that despite the leadership he brought to Manchester, and the strong 1st year play as a professional that he would be that much further along had he left college.

The next thing surprised me, and I suspect others will share this emotion. Boyle may aspire and eventually be the Kings’ #2 center. For next year, Hextall pegs him as the 4th line center. Seriously.

SECOND LINE CENTER:

There is NO ONE coming in from Manchester for the next TWO seasons that is projected to be the #2 center this organization desperately needs. While O’Sullivan filled this spot part-time last year, Hextall stated that the organization sees him better suited as a winger than a center. Due to the obvious need, O’Sullivan may spend time as the #2 center next season. (After I was done being shocked Boyle wasn’t the projected #2 guy, my brain immediately wondered whether Lombardi really did want the Kings to get Stamkos – my conjecture only.)

MY TAKE:

A team with no #2 center in the organization for the next two seasons, holes on the PK unit and no shut down line and a need to sign basically 3 defensemen, well, next year may be another challenging season for all concerned.

More to follow…. Stay tuned.

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I was there on Saturday and always get a laugh at the absurd comments people make. Take this one for example, 'I won't renew my season tickets if you resign Blake", o.k., goodbye. Don't let the zamboni hit you on the way out. Gimme a break. You Blake haters crack me up. I will be the first to admit that Blake was not worth the money that he made, but was Visnovsky? Lubo at more times than not was worthless on the ice. Was he worth his salary?

Then we get somebody complaing about the LA times coverage of the kings and its best hockey writer, Helene Ellliott. I'm sorry, when did that become a kings issue? That should be a question for the times.

These meetings are always a good laugh for me and truly thank all of you who participate and would especially like to thank the people who have positive comments, that is just so rare these days.

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I was there on Saturday and always get a laugh at the absurd comments people make. Take this one for example, 'I won't renew my season tickets if you resign Blake", o.k., goodbye. Don't let the zamboni hit you on the way out. Gimme a break. You Blake haters crack me up. I will be the first to admit that Blake was not worth the money that he made, but was Visnovsky? Lubo at more times than not was worthless on the ice. Was he worth his salary?
Visnovsky's defensive play was definitely not stellar, but I think we certainly could have done worse than his 41 points at roughly 2 million on the season. Lets not forget that he averaged the highest amount of ice time of any Kings player this season as well. Calling him worthless seems to be a bit harsh, especially when comparing him to our 'beloved' captain from this last season.
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No kidding on the positive part ... tho there was a massive increase in temperature from the first and second meeting. (Definitely easier to take notes in the front row instead of several back... NOT, at least now they can put a face to my blogs. )
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Yea... but sitting all the way up there you missed the fight that almost broke out over Rob Blake and whether or not he sucks.
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... I would have been on the 'he sucks' side, how did they make out?
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Visnovsky's defensive play was definitely not stellar, but I think we certainly could have done worse than his 41 points at roughly 2 million on the season. Lets not forget that he averaged the highest amount of ice time of any Kings player this season as well. Calling him worthless seems to be a bit harsh, especially when comparing him to our 'beloved' captain from this last season.
I'm sorry that you read in my statement that he was worthless. I said that at more times than not he was. The only reason for the comparison is that whenever Blake does anything wrong he is called out for it. Lubo made numerous mistakes this year and nobody says a single thing. I guess all I'm saying is, is that fair? As for the stats, they don't mean a single thing- they are both comparible for 2 former all-stars.
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Perception is a tricky thing. I have heard and/or read people wanting to trade Lubo for a bag of pucks. Others looking for the answer to the riddle 'Where in the world is Lubo?' ... seen his picture on milk cartons asking someone ... heck, anyone... to find his missing game. Make no mistake that after Lubo signed that extension and then had the less than Lubo-like year, he made enemies of fans and became a headache of the team trying to fix him and/or his game. At the first town hall meeting, Hextall said to a group of us that the losing got to Visnovsky.

I have every reason to believe Lubo has faced as much PR issues this year as Blake. The difference is that Lubo just has to find his game; the fans will love him again if he does. Fans find Blake to be a greedy player whose loyalty is to the dollar bill. That cannot be fixed for many no matter what he does on the ice. Big difference.
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... I would have been on the 'he sucks' side, how did they make out?


is that a trick question?

he'll be back, he'll be fine and half the faithful will complain, and 30 or so "devoted" season ticket holders will bitch out and not renew and feel edified, but nobody gives a s*** because Rob means more to the organization and those fellas in the locker-room than they ever will.
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Nah, apparently just my unsuccessful attempt at humor.
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... I would have been on the 'he sucks' side, how did they make out?

It looked like the "Blakey is AWESOME" crowd outnumbered them two to one. And they were louder and had bigger moustaches.
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It looked like the "Blakey is AWESOME" crowd outnumbered them two to one. And they were louder and had bigger moustaches.
The volume of Blake's proponents definitely did carry the room .... double drat that I could not see those moustaches though...
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