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Old December 18th, 2007, 08:19 AM   #1
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With this new found opportunity to try and be a voice for fans, I have read and heard a lot of what most people think. Here are some of the most common sentiments:

• The Kings have no heart
• Crawford is clueless, fire him now!
• No one will fight (as if enforcers ever won a game)
• Lombardi has accomplished exactly nothing, bring back Taylor and Murray
• My personal motto: Kings fans … conditioned for mediocrity

Monday’s game offered no more results than any other loss. Once again, the team gives up 2 goals in the first and quickly. In the four game losing streak, the Kings have given up 8 goals and scored 1 in the first period alone... ouch! On every level, seriously bad statistics.

The first period the Kings managed a meager four shots on goal... Double ouch! I still submit this team while challenged, possesses far more heart than fans give them credit for, by a mile. The following players came back from injury, most likely all, before their bodies were ready:

• Ivanans (broken orbital bone)
• Cammalleri (groin)
• Frolov (groin)
• LaBarbera (rib soft tissue damage, uses a heating pad between periods to function and a scant 2 weeks ago couldn’t drive without pain)
• Aubin (2 injured groins)
• Calder (thumb far from fully healed from surgery)

I get this team appears ‘heartless’ on the ice. Surely, since Smyth spent the game unscathed by Kings’ retribution that is further evidence they lack their collective souls...not. Fans need to take a step back, take a deep breath and appreciate that this house of cards otherwise known as the Kings is a work in progress. It just is. Trying to make them something more than this is why everyone is looking more for a scapegoat than a solution.

The Kings are legendary for scapegoats. The problem is when you search for blame, before you search for answers; it is emotionally satisfying but accomplishes exactly nothing. Los Angeles has 40 years of futility to show for that approach. Firing Crawford will not turn this team around permanently, if at all, for no more than the short term, if that.

There are a lot of things that appear and feel wrong. I get that. Heck, once again, the Kings cured what ailed the Avalanche. Colorado has a whopping six road wins, and two of those are compliments of the Kings. Sakic is out with a groin injury and that made no difference. The home team gave up three goals and 16 shots in the first. A time out solved exactly nothing and the visitors still scored a 3rd goal before the first 20 were over.

On a positive note, the Kings finished off the next to last team who hadn’t previously allowed a short handed goal, these Avalanche. The Kings did the same against Buffalo and now Ottawa remains the only team not to surrender a shorty.

Various blog titles came to mind as I watched this particular debacle unfold. Here are my top three:

Kings 07-08 Season R.I.P.
Kings Hockey: Alcohol Required
Will the Real Kings Please Stand Up?

As to the home crowd, please never mistake a non-traditional hockey market with passionless fans. Kings’ fans know their hockey, love this team and know how to respond when they do something right and when they do everything wrong. And if it is in the same game, they ride that roller coaster with the team and ride those highs and lows like some kind of bad theme park ride. The problem is the fans pay to watch these episodes and this team’s inconsistency is enough to drive the sanest fan to drink. Heck, liquor makes the losing more palatable, doesn’t it?

The most shots in this most recent loss are nearly all defenseman:

• Blake 3
• Stuart 3
• Preissing 3
• Handzus 3
• O’Sullivan 2
• Kopitar 2
• Brown 2

This is hardly good news to find out that the most shots came from defensemen and the most defensive forward on the team. Handzus' play of late shows why Lombardi signed him and considered him his 'key' signing of the off season. Right now he and other players are still a work in progress. That just is. When the Kings start to show their potential, the fans rightly reward their team with cheers at deafening decibels.

I could spend an inordinate amount of space detailing the team’s weaknesses but that would be near redundant to what others have said before me. Here are some of the basics from this game:

• Kopitar, Cammalleri and Armstrong were weak in the circle at 40% or so
• Gift-aways were abundant with Frolov and Johnson leading the way with 4
• Cammalleri missed on an astounding 5 ‘attempted’ shots on goal (Is he officially pressing?)
• Modry and Johnson’s less than stellar disciplined play at 2 penalties a piece

My Take

If I had to try and provide an explanation to the MIA play on the ice, lack of heart would not be my take on the uglier plays of the night. I get that the team looked like that but looks can be deceiving.

Think back to how each of us is on a daily basis at our jobs. Can anyone honestly say they give 100% every time and every minute at work? I am thinking no.

Right now it seems like the players are not skating as a unit.

I find one area for improvement is shorter shifts and better timed line changes. Both of these items can also be traced to the guys being more aware and more relentless as a unit, not as individuals. When the Kings get 3 line changes on power plays and penalty kills, they start to show what they can do. That takes some heads up play and far more urgency than I currently see during games.

The Kings are also playing like a bunch of individuals not working in sync. I would actually like to see some practice exercises that prove this point. I saw a movie when this when an issue. The players were put on the ice with a rope around their collective waists. The exercise had the skaters having to go from one end of the ice to the other. The challenge is they go nowhere unless they move as a unit. When these players can do that, something as simple as that, the difference will eventually become evident on the ice.

Here is what O’Sullivan said on the post game show:
“We played great in the 3rd period. It’s not good enough. I don’t know why it takes 2 periods or a period for us to realize the way we have to play. It is frustrating because, our team, you can see how good we can play. This is not the 1st time this happened this year. We got to figure out something figure out a way to start games like that and we will be fine.”
On the penalty kill:
“We tried to put a little more pressure on their D started forechecking with 2 guys and I thought that created a little bit more energy for us. We knew we had to try to do something if we were going to get back in the game. Being down three nothing going in to the 3rd period, there is only so many times you can come back and tie it and try to get a win in overtime or the shoot-out. We fell short again. That has happened too much this year.”
On the little things being the issue:
“I like to think so. This is a good group of guys in the room. Everyone cares and everyone is trying to do their best. It is not so much the effort. The effort is there. It is the little things; the little mistakes that ya know at the time are little but end up being the difference in a game. I don’t know. If we had the answer, this stuff wouldn’t be happening. All we can do is try to improve with what we did wrong in this game. Come out with a better effort, Detroit is obviously the best team in the league. We are going to have our hands full with them. We need to prepare and try and get this going in the other direction.”
Detroit will be a far bigger challenge than the past Kings’ opponents. For what this is worth, Los Angeles often plays better for tougher opponents. Let’s hope this is one of those games.

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Good post. I look at many of your points and agree with them, but I come to a bit of a different conclusion. I think the players do have heart. Some of them are young and do dumb things from time to time. I think most of this lies right on the shoulders of the coach. Think of the coaching greats. Their teams don't make these mistakes. The coaching greats from all sports would never allow a defense to forget men on the back side of cross ice passes for tip ins. The coaching greats wouldn't tolerate a team forgetting Smyth at the side of the net.

I think the Kings have some great talent. I look at the young players and I see the heart of the team. That's somewhat the opposite of most teams. What pisses Kings fans off the most is the simple fact that the team continues to bring in guys like Nady and Handzus, and can't get the proven heart guys. That's the history of the scapegoating. Name me a true impact veteran that the Kings have brought in since Deadmarsh.
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Kings fans (me included) were excited about the free agents we signed. The word 'playoffs' were thrown around LGK.com during the off-season, based on those signings. I'm most dissapointed with the defense. Despite not acquiring Drury, Briere, etc. I think everyone was excited about our collection of offensive minded defenseman. And we're all guilty of talking up Jack Johnson to be the next Dion Phaneuf.

The 'offensive defensman' we acquired are not scoring or contributing at the rate we fans had hoped (and i'm sure at the rate DL expected when he signed them). And if they're not scoring, they're defintely not putting any fear into our opponent's forwards. Opposition forwards are not scared to visit the front of the Kings' net. When opposition forwards prepare to play the Kings, they aren't anticipating a tough night on the ice. And there lies a problem. To quote the boxer Ricky Hatton, 'this isn't a tickling contest', and the same is true with the sport of hockey. Yah, the Kings' defenseman have showed a little more grit as of late, but the fact that they didn't respond until Labarbara was hurt says a lot about the make up of this team.

I agree with your post. It isn't one thing, it's a collection of things. What do we need? New coach? Vocal Vets? Call up Purcel?

PUT JMFJ ON THE POWER PLAY!!...Stuart/Preissing isnt getting the job done.

Who knows what might turn this season around. I'm just going to keep cheering for my team. Go Kings.
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All teams have heart. Some teams have more talent than others. This team lacks talent and has less heart than others.
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NO NO NO!!!
Fire Crow! Fire Dave Lewis!! Trade all the players for picks!! I'm not going to games anymore!! I'M A WHINEY BABY THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS YEAR WAS GONNA BE ROUGH ANYWAYS! WAAAAAAAA!!!
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I was impressed with the sentiments O'Sully gave in the post game interview, yeah some of it is the canned type answer "this a good group of guys" etc but what shone out for me is he has heart and wants to win

Rightly or wrongly he has been portrayed as a selfish whiner in the past, this shows to me that's not the case

His play this year keeps me watching, just like Kopitar did last year, we may lose and I am pissed off but if you watch the Tivo every game there is something good to see from the kids
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Thank YOU ... for these sentiments. I am frustrated as anyone by the Kings this year. I just find myself being more patient b/c I expected these wins and losses this year.

It is an old cliche but good things really do come to those who wait. Knee jerk choices is the exact WRONG way to go and fix the current situation. I just hope fan backlash doesn't force Lombardi's hand to make a rash decision.
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I was impressed with the sentiments O'Sully gave in the post game interview, yeah some of it is the canned type answer "this a good group of guys" etc but what shone out for me is he has heart and wants to win

Rightly or wrongly he has been portrayed as a selfish whiner in the past, this shows to me that's not the case
I was too. The Demitra trade that brought O'Sullivan here was one of the first signs for me that Lombardi was different than Taylor and I was thrilled that was the case.

Hextall helped mentor O'Sullivan last year and his play and words this year reflect that!
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Hi,
sorry for my english, but i try my best !!! I'm a LA Kings fan since i was able to listen to hockey.

This year i was very please to see that we have a great team when i see new player comming like Michal Handzus and Jonathan Bernier !!!! But in suprise i see my team in the bottom of the league ???

Please do something fire the head coach, i saw im here in Québec with the Nordiques and he is a defensive coach what we need is a offensive coach like Bob Hartley !!!!

Pls help a fan thats is very dissapointed of is team !!!

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sorry to disturb again but is not the player that have no heart is the coach thats dosen't know how to let them play together like champion !!!!
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I hear you. Believe it or not, Crawford has been keeping juggling lines a lot less than earlier in the season. I don't think if the guys stayed on the same line, they would be playing like champions, not this year anyway.

If that was all it took, Crawford would leave it alone -- as would every coach in the league. Therrien in Pittsburgh does this incessantly with the Penguins as well.

Last night's lines, for the most part, looked like this:

Brown, Kopitar, Thornton/Cammalleri
Calder, O'Sullivan, Frolov
Guiliano, Handzus, Thornton
Ivanans, Armstrong, Zeiler

Blake/Johnson
Stuart/Preissing
Visnovsky/Modry

Of the above combinations, Thornton was really the only one who got thrown a bit, as did Cammalleri.

This team is a work in progress. Patience and stability is the starting point for this team to turn it around IMO. I have no earthly idea if fans' impatience will force Lombardi to do something he otherwise might not do. I am crossing my fingers DL shows the strength to only make the moves he believes in, not a desperate move solely to look like he is doing something.
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hi,
tks for the fast reply,
but in my situation here in quebec the hockey is life and when the borring montreal canadiens loose the do something, but my team (LA) dosen't seam to care... i don't want mister lombardi to made a trade of shi... but we have to do something fast because we are not going to the playoff again this year, and that suck

tks and merry christmas and haapy new year to all Kings fan around the globe !!!
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The first period the Kings managed a meager four shots on goal... Double ouch! I still submit this team while challenged, possesses far more heart than fans give them credit for, by a mile. The following players came back from injury, most likely all, before their bodies were ready:

• Ivanans (broken orbital bone)
• Cammalleri (groin)
• Frolov (groin)
• LaBarbera (rib soft tissue damage, uses a heating pad between periods to function and a scant 2 weeks ago couldn’t drive without pain)
• Aubin (2 injured groins)
• Calder (thumb far from fully healed from surgery)

I get this team appears ‘heartless’ on the ice. Surely, since Smyth spent the game unscathed by Kings’ retribution that is further evidence they lack their collective souls...not. Fans need to take a step back, take a deep breath and appreciate that this house of cards otherwise known as the Kings is a work in progress. It just is. Trying to make them something more than this is why everyone is looking more for a scapegoat than a solution.
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Every single team in the NHL has a handful of guys playing hurt Carla, but good teams play through that and work together to get on track.
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I think my point is I don't believe the Kings are a good team right now. I think they are becoming one, albeit slowly. Also, I used the injury points to address the suggestion of many that the Kings are playing without heart. I don't their collective hearts are the problem. There execution and their trust in each other to do this as a unit is a huge issue.
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Originally Posted by lakings20 View Post
here in quebec the hockey is life and when the borring montreal canadiens loose the do something, but my team (LA) dosen't seam to care...
Here is where I disagree. The Kings care. The problem at least in part is due to the fact that they are trying to change things individually rather than as one cohesive unit. They also are most likely deflated emotionally individually which is a factor too. When a person lacks confidence, it generally shows up in how they function. The Kings are not a confident team right now, not individually, and even worse than that as a unit.

This is not an easy fix. It is hard to watch, and even harder to permanently address. The process is, will and does suck. I see no instant f